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Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Jan 16, 2019 8:21 AM CST
Michelle is a very nice lady and great communicator I might add + generous !
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Waukesha (Zone 5a)
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Cpschult
Mar 15, 2019 7:46 AM CST
@char

Can you delete all posts not directly related to actual hybridization of bearded daylilies out of this thread?
Name: Char
Vermont (Zone 4b)
Daylilies Forum moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Region: Vermont
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Char
Mar 15, 2019 8:49 AM CST

Moderator

The discussion in this thread is about Sculpted cristate forms and matters related to the hybridization of the them. There is nothing in this thread that I can find objectionable... or untrue.
So ...no, I will not delete any of the posts in this thread.

Waukesha (Zone 5a)
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Cpschult
Mar 15, 2019 1:41 PM CST
@char

Actually Char there are a decent amount of personal opinions in here. I'd like them removed. Thanks.
Name: Char
Vermont (Zone 4b)
Daylilies Forum moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Region: Vermont
Dog Lover Hybridizer Enjoys or suffers cold winters Keeper of Poultry Organic Gardener Fruit Growers
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Char
Mar 15, 2019 2:22 PM CST

Moderator

Cpschult said:@char

Can you delete all posts not directly related to actual hybridization of bearded daylilies out of this thread?

Char said:The discussion in this thread is about Sculpted cristate forms and matters related to the hybridization of the them. There is nothing in this thread that I can find objectionable... or untrue.
So ...no, I will not delete any of the posts in this thread.


Cpschult said:@char

Actually Char there are a decent amount of personal opinions in here. I'd like them removed. Thanks.




Hilarious! Seriously? People are allowed to post their on topic personal opinions. The topic is Cristated or "bearded", all posts in this thread are on topic.
You have no right to tell me to delete anything in this thread or forum.
Name: Char
Vermont (Zone 4b)
Daylilies Forum moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Region: Vermont
Dog Lover Hybridizer Enjoys or suffers cold winters Keeper of Poultry Organic Gardener Fruit Growers
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Char
Mar 17, 2019 5:50 AM CST

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After I locked this thread Chris went back and edited the first post to this thread with the comment quoted below. I'm quoting the edit by Chris on March 16, 2019 1:12pm below and my reply.


Cpschult said:Edit; clearly @char has some personal vendetta against Brad Best. I'd hoped the thread would remain on topic for cristate/bearded daylilies in cooler climates but it seems personal arrogance and/or pride is more important to her. Brad has asked me to delete the thread due to the personal attacks on him and I've told him no becaue I think there is valuable information in the thread. I've asked char to remove the personal attacks from the thread and she's said no. I expect better from moderators so I've reached out to the web moderator see if there is an unbiased higher authority to weigh in. Honestly @char you should be ashamed.


BRAD BEST was banned from this forum 8 years ago and will never be allowed to post here. So instead... he demands one of his followers do his dirty work for him. I'm not ashamed of anything and never will be. You came onto this website Chris and were welcomed by myself and other members. Sadly, this is the way the followers of BRAD BEST operate. BRAD BEST goes on the attack when anyone disagrees with him. He bully's and intimidates people, even moderators, so moderators will remove the offending posts or entire conversation of a discussion. Myself and others have seen it and been the recipients of this behavior and worse over and over for the past 10 years. NOT THIS TIME. I stand behind every post I made in this thread including the personal opinions and I have hundreds of documents to back up every word. Many of the members to this website and others have seen this behavior over and over on other internet social sites. Any member of the AHS Email Robin can search the archives and see the messages posted by BRAD BEST (if you don't know how tmail me). NGA members who were once a part of the wildly popular MyDaylilies site will remember the years of crazy rants that eventually chased people away. What was once a bustling hang out for everything and everyone daylilies... no longer exists. To those NGA members who have no clue of this battle, I truly am sorry to have to air this here, BUT this is "my turf" and BRAD BEST brought the fight to me personally. I will not sit back and take it. I owe it not only to myself but to every member who comes into the Daylily Forum to know that I WILL NOT stand for anyone being treated this way as long as I am moderator. (and control the magic buttons). Smiling

Name: Char
Vermont (Zone 4b)
Daylilies Forum moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Region: Vermont
Dog Lover Hybridizer Enjoys or suffers cold winters Keeper of Poultry Organic Gardener Fruit Growers
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Char
Mar 17, 2019 12:25 PM CST

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And yet another BRAD BEST supporter had to come in and edit their post. Rolling my eyes. All I can say is maybe there's a damn good reason why "many people with power buttons" are shutting this disgusting behavior down.
DavidR said:Some say Brad is a 'bully'. The only bullying I have seen is from the Curt Hanson followers. Imagine one hybridizer is being attacked from many people who have 'power' buttons. It is a personal vendetta against him at this point. It's sad really that such an influential hybridizer has been treated in such a way. Let's remember if it wasn't for the hybridizer there would be no AHS. Not the other way around.

The AHS dictionary against Brad's coined term 'bearded' is a wonderful example of this bullying taking place. I would say there is no such thing as sculpted either as sculpting requires work on a medium. We do no such thing in hybridization..food for thought.

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