Plant ID forum: Trees in New York state

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Name: Aaron
New York (Zone 7a)
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Dec 13, 2017 4:23 PM CST
Hello all! These trees are planted all over the college I go to in Westchester County, NY.
The leaves sort of resemble rounded maple leaves...
It is winter and it just snowed the other day, so the leaves are no longer green.

Anyone know what tree this is and if it is native to the area?

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islander
Dec 13, 2017 7:43 PM CST
Liquidambar styraciflua
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Name: josephine
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frostweed
Dec 14, 2017 8:46 AM CST
It looks like Sweetgum to me also. Smiling
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Name: greene
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greene
Dec 14, 2017 11:28 AM CST
I was thinking that tree does not grow that far north. Could it be some type of maple or even a plane/sycamore of some kind? If it were Liquidambar the ground would be littered with spiky balls.

When trees are planted near a college/university it's always a good idea to ask the school for the list of plants on their campus. That will help narrow it down.

At one of the schools they have a native plant class.
http://www.sunywcc.edu/about/n...
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Name: greene
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greene
Dec 14, 2017 11:46 AM CST
Okay, I take back that it might not grow that far north. It may occur in that area.
https://naturewalk.yale.edu/tr...

But the leaves you are showing have rounded edges and the bark is different than the Sweetgum.

Can we look for other possibilities?
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Silversurfer
Dec 14, 2017 2:46 PM CST
The leaf shape of Liquidambar can be very varied. eg. Liquidambar styraciflua rotundiloba has very rounded leaf lobes.
See.

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...
Name: josephine
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Dec 14, 2017 2:59 PM CST
Wow! that is a mazing variety of leaf shapes. Smiling
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islander
Dec 14, 2017 3:20 PM CST
This is likely the cultivar, 'Worplesdon'
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greene
Dec 14, 2017 3:57 PM CST
What's the name of the college in Westchester County, NY? Maybe someone can send them a message and they can give a definitive answer.
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Name: Aaron
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Dec 14, 2017 7:06 PM CST
@greene it is Purchase College in Westchester county!
Do you think I could find out all of the species they planted? I wonder who I'd have to contact Blinking

Also @Silversurfer, Liquidambar styraciflua rotundiloba seems like it might be it!

Thank you all I'm all ears!
Name: John
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ViburnumValley
Dec 25, 2017 7:55 PM CST
I think this is unquestionably the clonal selection Liquidambar styraciflua 'Rotundiloba'.

This selection was made long ago in North Carolina. It is best known (and named) for leaves with rounded rather than pointed lobes. It is also well known for forming few to no fruit - the spiny involucres mentioned above as commonly found under the common Sweetgum well known in the southeastern United States.

Planted on a campus would be expected: used ornamentally, without any of the "problems" of the species in a heavily trafficked landscape.

The other well known characteristic: it stays green late into fall in northerly climates, and leaves often freeze on the tree before changing to the famously colorful range which Sweetgum often displays.

For those that doubt its identity - especially considering it might be a Maple (Acer sp.) - take a look at the leaf arrangement along the stem. Sweetgum will always be alternate. Maple will always be opposite.
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