Plant Database forum: What happened to Callisia congesta?

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Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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purpleinopp
Dec 30, 2017 7:38 AM CST
It looks like it has been merged with this Tradescantia entry for some reason:
Spiderwort (Tradescantia virginiana)

@plantladylin Have you noticed this?

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zuzu
Dec 30, 2017 1:02 PM CST

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Callisia congesta is not a valid species name. I don't know whether it ever was. It isn't listed in any taxonomic database, but some sources list it as a synonym for Tradescantia congesta. When T. congesta became a synonym of T. virginiana, Callisia congesta went along for the ride.
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KentPfeiffer
Dec 30, 2017 1:20 PM CST

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What sites list Callisia congesta as a synonym of Tradescantia congesta, zuzu? I'm pretty confident that Callisia congesta is an invented horticultural name rather than a botanical one and thus not a synonym, in the taxonomic sense, of anything.

In any event, purpleinopp's and plantladylin's pictures don't belong in the Tradescantia virginiana entry.
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Dec 30, 2017 1:38 PM CST

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Drat! I can't find the sources now, but I promise that I once did find a couple after a lengthy search. They were not taxonomic sources, and may have been conjecture more than anything else. I'm certain you're right that it's an invented name and that purpleinopp and plantladylin should move their "Callisia congesta" photos to the Callisia generic entry.

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I've removed C. congesta from the list of synonyms of T. virginiana.
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plantladylin
Dec 30, 2017 1:41 PM CST
purpleinopp said:@plantladylin Have you noticed this?

No, I didn't know of the name error but I don't think it's the Tradescantia virginiana. The plant I know as "Virginia Spiderwort" is clump forming and has very thin, slender, arching leaves, whereas the other one I purchased as Callisia congesta, has a trailing habit and broader leaves.

MOBOT's description of T. virginiana: http://www.missouribotanicalga... and photo: http://www.missouribotanicalga...

Not a match at all for the one I have called Callisia congesta, so I'm thinking it may be a different species of Callisia rather than Tradescantia.

More images of the plant I know as T. virginiana: https://gobotany.newenglandwil...
http://vnps.org/wildflowers-of...

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plantladylin
Dec 30, 2017 1:47 PM CST
zuzu said: purpleinopp and plantladylin should move their "Callisia congesta" photos to the Callisia generic entry.


Thanks Zu .... mine have been moved to the general Callisia entry!

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purpleinopp
Jan 2, 2018 8:29 AM CST
TY for the explanation & efforts.

How can a plant not have a name? It is clearly not C. fragrans or any of the other Callisia species I have, or have seen.

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purpleinopp
Jan 2, 2018 8:34 AM CST
I have the day off work so will have time to move pics but what if I did not visit this site for a month for whatever reason? When the decision was made to consolidate these, I also think an effort should have been made to sort the pics into their new proper place(s), or at least notify owners of pics merged entry that they may no longer be in the correct place. If I hadn't happened to be tweaking my plant list, who knows how long these pics would have been sitting there, incorrectly representing a spiderwort species.
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purpleinopp
Jan 15, 2018 9:24 AM CST
Taking this to a theoretical level, how can a plant not have a name?
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