Plant Database forum: White Marguerite Daisy - Felicia amelloides

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Name: Carole
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carolem
Jan 1, 2018 5:27 AM CST
Plant ID: 76517 is the blue version - where could I add the white one? Thank You!

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Jan 1, 2018 4:17 PM CST

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Hi Carole,

They don't list a cultivar name for the white variety (although they do for the blue one - Felicia (Felicia amelloides Pinwheel™ Periwinkle)), so I'd suggest contacting them for the cultivar name. Otherwise, the best option is to just add it to the general species entry:

Blue Daisy (Felicia amelloides)

Often you'll find that the species entry contains photos of different colour forms - many species have a white (or yellow or green if it's an orchid) variety in addition to the regular colour (these are typically referred to as the alba form but aren't distinct enough for a separate taxonomical entry).
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Name: Carole
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carolem
Jan 1, 2018 5:19 PM CST
Australis said:Hi Carole,

They don't list a cultivar name for the white variety (although they do for the blue one - Felicia (Felicia amelloides Pinwheel™ Periwinkle)), so I'd suggest contacting them for the cultivar name. Otherwise, the best option is to just add it to the general species entry:

Blue Daisy (Felicia amelloides)

Often you'll find that the species entry contains photos of different colour forms - many species have a white (or yellow or green if it's an orchid) variety in addition to the regular colour (these are typically referred to as the alba form but aren't distinct enough for a separate taxonomical entry).


thanks for your suggestions Joshua; much appreciated.
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Name: Carole
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carolem
Jan 1, 2018 5:22 PM CST
@Australia, thanks Joshua, appreciate your suggestions.

Do you think this suffices/or not?

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Name: Joshua
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Australis
Jan 1, 2018 5:29 PM CST

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I'm afraid not, as that is a completely different species and genus. Are you trying to identify a plant you already have?
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plantladylin
Jan 1, 2018 5:31 PM CST
Is there a white variety of Felicia amelloides? Everything I find says blue or sky blue ray flowers with yellow center.
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http://pza.sanbi.org/felicia-a...


I wonder if this is the one you are looking for? Marguerite Daisy (Argyranthemum frutescens)

Well, nope - that is not the plant in your photo, different leaves and bloom.
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Name: Carole
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carolem
Jan 1, 2018 6:24 PM CST
plantladylin said:
I wonder if this is the one you are looking for? Marguerite Daisy (Argyranthemum frutescens)

Well, nope - that is not the plant in your photo, different leaves and bloom.


Hi Lin, well yes that was the same as noted in the link supplied earlier post. I wondered if it was the same as what I have? (I also do have a blue version, so I thought this would be simple Smiling )

This is my white daisy or marguerite or....? (also inserted in initial post). I've often referred to them as Felicia. Leaf surfaces have a very fine tooth.

Thanks for trying to help with ID.




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plantladylin
Jan 1, 2018 6:27 PM CST
The leaves sure look right for Felicia amelloides, perhaps it's a hybrid?

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Australis
Jan 1, 2018 6:35 PM CST

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If an exact ID cannot be obtained but it can be narrowed down to one of the genera listed on the Aster parent entry (see below), then you can add it there:

Asters (Aster)
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plantladylin
Jan 1, 2018 6:38 PM CST
So, you aren't sure it's Felicia? If the leaves have toothed margins, I wonder if it might be a variety of Leucanthemum? Shasta Daisies (Leucanthemum x superbum)



or Montauk Daisy (Nipponanthemum nipponicum)
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Name: Carole
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carolem
Jan 1, 2018 6:46 PM CST
Australis said:If an exact ID cannot be obtained but it can be narrowed down to one of the genera listed on the Aster parent entry (see below), then you can add it there:

Asters (Aster)


thanks Lin and Joshua both - I've just written to supplier to enquire for a correct reference. Will update here if received and take it from there.


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Name: Joshua
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Australis
Jan 1, 2018 6:48 PM CST

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Hopefully you can get an ID, Carole!
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plantladylin
Jan 1, 2018 6:53 PM CST
This Nursery: http://witbos.co.za/plant.aspx... lists a white hybrid and there's a photo of the blooms on the right side of the page. Their description: ~ Felicia amelloides *White - Compact bush with masses of white daisy flowers plant in groups in mixed borders for a startling splash of white. Cut back to shape and deadhead often for more flowers. Beautful white patio plants in clay pots or mixed bowls. Feed with 3:1:5 slow release or organic fertiliser and water regularly for best results. ~
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Name: Carole
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carolem
Jan 1, 2018 6:59 PM CST
thanks Lin; yes I've written to them for a possible expansion on ID. Watch this space Smiling
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Vincent Van Gough
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 1, 2018 7:04 PM CST
I'll be watching because I'm very curious; the leaves sure look like Felicia to me ... but then, I'm old and my eyesight isn't the greatest until I have the cataracts removed!
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Name: Carole
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carolem
Feb 22, 2018 5:31 AM CST
@plantladylin
plantladylin said:This Nursery: http://witbos.co.za/plant.aspx... lists a white hybrid and there's a photo of the blooms on the right side of the page. Their description: ~ Felicia amelloides *White - Compact bush with masses of white daisy flowers plant in groups in mixed borders for a startling splash of white. Cut back to shape and deadhead often for more flowers. Beautful white patio plants in clay pots or mixed bowls. Feed with 3:1:5 slow release or organic fertiliser and water regularly for best results. ~


Lin this is what I have - identical features other than colour, of the blue form. Hadn't gotten a response re my query for a cultivar name of the white version though, so ....

@Australis Joshua, will go ahead and add to the general species entry, Blue Daisy (Felicia amelloides) as you had suggested in part, first instance.

Australis said:Hi Carole,

Often you'll find that the species entry contains photos of different colour forms - many species have a white (or yellow or green if it's an orchid) variety in addition to the regular colour (these are typically referred to as the alba form but aren't distinct enough for a separate taxonomical entry).


Thank You!


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Vincent Van Gough

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