All Things Gardening forum: Blackeyed Susan planting

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Name: SummerShaddow
Wetumpka, AL (Zone 8a)
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SummerShaddow
Jan 6, 2018 10:03 AM CST
Can someone tell me when the best time it is to plant Blackeyed Susan and Cone Flower (plants, not seed) in zone 8a? Not even sure when they will be sold at local nurseries, but I want to be prepared. :)
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Jan 6, 2018 8:23 PM CST
Welcome!

The rule I follow is to plant everything (even cold hardy plants) after the last frost. Of course, if you knew when the last from was going to happen... Take a guess. Smiling

Your local nursery will probably stock them at the appropriate time. You can also check the "Frost Dates Lookup" under "Tools and Apps" above. But remember, these dates are not set in stone - you will have to 'feel' the date. So to be sure, plant them all on May 1st. Sighing!
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Name: Jai or Jack
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Jai_Ganesha
Jan 8, 2018 7:13 AM CST
If the local nursery doesn't have them, you will likely find them at Lowe's. I was surprised one year to find several different varieties at Lowe's.
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Jan 9, 2018 4:59 PM CST
There are a number of "black eyed susans", as well as "coneflowers", would help if you specified which ones you have in mind.

for the purposes of this thread, I'm going to assume that you mean gloriosa daisy (rudbeckia hirta) and purple coneflower (echinacea purpurea).

Last summer... when my blackeyed susans set seed, I collected and planted the seed, and they came up right away. Usually, I allow them to self-sow, and they come up with the cooler temps, and... I get blooms in June. Really doubt that Spring planted black eyed susans would have time to bloom.

My echinacea also gets planted as soon as the seed ripens, but they don't come up until spring.

Personally, I would suggest planting the seeds immediately... It may already be too late for the rudbeckia... but the echinacea should do fine.

And... I saw that Lowes had the new seed racks last week... You should be seeing the seeds anywhere that you normally purchase them.
Name: greene
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greene
Jan 11, 2018 10:07 AM CST
Plus if you plant seeds it will cost less than purchasing plants and there will be no neonics in the plants to harm pollinators. Lowe's has not yet stopped selling plants containing neonics.
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Jan 11, 2018 7:37 PM CST
I though neonics were systemic. That means only the sucky bugs would be harmed.
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Name: greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Jan 12, 2018 3:16 AM CST
Not just sucky bugs. Neonicotinoids (a.k.a. neonics) are slowly but surely killing honeybees (and some other pollinators not as frequently studied). The neonics interfere with the reproduction of the bees. Neonics are not the only cause for declining populations in honeybees but they are part of the problem. Most 'Big Box' stores are phasing out neonic-treated plants and are cooperating by labeling plants so the buyer can be informed. That doesn't much help the honeybees who visit the plants while they are on display for sale in the stores. Other things such as the Varroa mite are a problem but for more detailed information you might contact your local beekeeper association.

Sorry to blather on about this, but once the bees are gone, so is our food supply.
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