Daylilies forum: Speakers for Daylily Club Meetings

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McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Jan 6, 2018 3:17 PM CST
We need to decide on a speaker for this fall at our banquet. Usually we get a hybridizer who also donates plants to be auctioned - with the proceeds sometimes going entirely to the club but most times being split with the hybridizer. We've considered looking for entertaining people who will not be donating daylilies, but our members really enjoy those auctions and it's also quite helpful with the club's bottom line.

I would to get a list of hybridizers who still travel to speak and why you liked them if they spoke to your group.

Thanks.
Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jan 6, 2018 3:29 PM CST
Eric Simpson- great slideshow, spent time mingling after, was approachable and personable. I couldn't stay long enough at our meeting to get involved in the auction- so I don't know how many/if any plants were brought as club donations.
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McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Jan 6, 2018 5:48 PM CST
Yes, I was lucky enough to be invited along to eat dinner with Eric and Bob Faulkner at the Norfolk National just because I was standing at the entry to the bar all alone - so definitely approachable and both are very kind too. Neither is too shabby in the hybridizing arena either.

We had Bob as a speaker once and he brought some seedlings for us to auction. One of our members won the auction for one of the seedlings and later went on to become angry and badmouthed Bob ever since because it did not get registered. Well, excuse me but it was not stated that those seedlings were destined to be registered and in any case, people will pay a lot to get their hands on Bob Faulkner's seedlings! I told that club member I would take the plant but he had destroyed it - grrr. (I've tried more than once to set that person straight and shut them up but some people are just going to believe what they want to believe.)

I wonder if Bob would come and donate seedlings again - my hand would probably be up if there was a remote chance I could use the plant for hybridizing. Meanwhile, I would never say a bad word against that kind man.
Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jan 6, 2018 6:04 PM CST
Sounds awesome! Being in the Midwest, we don't have a lot of well-known hybridizers... I'm not in a position to travel much, so I miss out on Daylily Mecca and big shows... I just joined our state club this year, so I'm pretty new.

I'm shocked that someone would get his knickers in a twist because a seedling wasn't going to be registered... And to destroy it?! Tsk! I don't think I'd care if a seeding was going to be registered- like you, if it suited my hybridizing plans, I'd be thrilled to have it...

Too bad the guy didn't have a sunnier attitude... What a bummer...

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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jan 7, 2018 6:24 AM CST
We had Bob as a speaker once and he brought some seedlings for us to auction. One of our members won the auction for one of the seedlings and later went on to become angry and badmouthed Bob ever since because it did not get registered.

Why did the member not register it themself, was it a division and therefore they didn't have all plants of that seedling?
Ohio (Zone 5a)
Deryll
Jan 8, 2018 2:07 PM CST
Bob is a great speaker and a personable guy, and very well educated about daylily genetics. He has some very interesting
flowers in the smaller sizes. I mostly prefer extra large full forms over 7 inches, so I only keep one of his intros, but it does
really well here. I know quite a few people who have bought his unregistered seedlings. No idea if they were as whole clumps
or as individual plants, but I don't think you can register a plant without permission from the original hybridizer. The people
I know have his seedlings listed: Faulkner Seedling XXXX (numbered)

I am a collector of daylilies that peak my interest, no matter if they are registered or not. While I do use some for breeding
purposes, I also have a display garden that is unique to my garden, and have hundreds of seedlings that will never be registered,
yet they are still remarkable plants. I don't think I would compost a plant out of spite because it lacks a name.
Name: Ashton & Terry
Jones, OK (Zone 7a)
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kidfishing
Jan 13, 2018 9:03 AM CST
ShakespearesGarden said:Sounds awesome! Being in the Midwest, we don't have a lot of well-known hybridizers... I'm not in a position to travel much, so I miss out on Daylily Mecca and big shows... I just joined our state club this year, so I'm pretty new.

I'm shocked that someone would get his knickers in a twist because a seedling wasn't going to be registered... And to destroy it?! Tsk! I don't think I'd care if a seeding was going to be registered- like you, if it suited my hybridizing plans, I'd be thrilled to have it...


It is a cold morning so I am catching up on some posts.

A couple of good speakers who bring plants are Scott Elliott and Paul Owens.

Interesting to hear that you like it even if seedlings are offered since we are looking at what to do this spring.
My son, Ashton and myself are invited to speak at 2 clubs this year and we are concerned that we only have a few introductions and limited stock due to selling and donating during our summer regional in 2017. We will have some 2018's but not sure about our inventory since they don't multiply around here like many other places. We do grow thousands of seedlings in all colors shapes and sizes and could offer some of them. We have done presentations in the past and gave seedlings in drawings and offered a few plants for auction. We have also taken daylily seeds as give away for those interested in tying to grow their own seedlings.

Kidfishing
Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jan 13, 2018 9:38 AM CST
@kidfishing
I know everyone is different, I think that many daylily club members (I am not one) often just grow registered plants and that is their main interest. Up until recently I would have had no interest in any seedlings being offered. Then I went to a flower show and bought twenty + seedlings one year, some turned out pretty decent, some just awful, some died, and none were what I would call registration quality (I was told when I bought them they had been gone through on several occasions and the better ones had been culled out) so I knew before hand what to expect, but I did get some good genes in the batch. That started to change my interests a little. Then I started paying more attention to the daylily seedlings and seed growing areas of the daylily forum. Now I have over 200 cups of seeds(of my own) planted and most of them have new sprouts. I purchased seeds from Hemlady last year and have seedlings I hope will bloom this year.
I would enjoy going to a meeting just to hear experienced growers talk about daylilies. That would be the main attraction to me, learning from others experience is about the best value there is in life. I know club members might have become accustomed to speakers bringing registered plants and might be disappointed. Others who have broadened their interests into growing seedlings would appreciate them, and I am certain there would be a few like me that would recognize the chance to get some good genetics from the seeds and appreciate those and experience the joy of growing plants from seed to bloom. That has become my prime interest at the moment.
So maybe take just a very few registered plants, more seedlings and some seeds. Give a great informative presentation and then if anyone is not pleased with that.... let them give the next presentation.
Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Jan 13, 2018 10:40 AM CST
Well said Larry...
Scout's motto: Be Prepared...
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Legalily
Jan 13, 2018 10:43 AM CST
I agree
Be a person that makes others feel special.
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Jan 13, 2018 9:54 PM CST
I'd love seeds and seedlings! However, for me, as Larry said so well, the chance to gain knowledge is most important.
Name: Nancy
Upper East Side of Texas (Zone 8b)
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Maxmom98
Jan 13, 2018 10:10 PM CST
Pat Sayers travels for speaking engagements and she's not that far away from you. Her work is greatly under appreciated especially her polymerous daylilies.
McLean, VA (Zone 6b)
daylilly99
Jan 13, 2018 11:10 PM CST
Sorry, I didn't mean for this to get off topic with discussions about the destroyed seedling. I've been chatting with Diana a lot and I think I just sort of forgot this wasn't a conversation between the two of us. Sorry about any controversy - just blowing off steam.

Terry, I think if clubs are interested enough to invite you and your son to speak, they might be happy to have some of your seedlings (as door prizes if nothing else). Bob actually showed slides and gave information about the seedlings he brought for us and I suggest you do the same if they would be auctioned. Obviously, tell people you don't intend to register these.

We did have Scott Elliott at our last fall banquet - not the first time I've heard him speak and he's thoroughly entertaining. The auction went very well.

I can't remember if we've had Paul Owen to this club, but many of us have seen him at National meetings. Our club usually buys a lot of his plants for our club plant program.

I don't think Pat Sayers has ever even been mention, Nancy so thanks for that idea. I'll pass it along.

I admire those who can get up in front of a room and give an entertaining talk. A few people in our club keep urging me to put together a presentation and give a talk at one of our business meetings. Frankly, I'd rather take my clothes off in public - and if you don't think that would be humiliating, you haven't seen me in a bathing suit - LOL. I'm just saying - public speaking is not for all of us and thanks to those who do it so well.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jan 14, 2018 6:37 AM CST
daylilly99 said:
. Bob actually showed slides and gave information about the seedlings he brought for us and I suggest you do the same if they would be auctioned. Obviously, tell people you don't intend to register these.
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If one gives details because they already flowered while with the hybridizer then he/she would be the "originator", but they can still be registered by the purchaser unless the originator refuses to give permission.

If it has not flowered yet, and the seedling is the only plant of it, then the purchaser can register it without permission according to the AHS registratio instructions below.

So if the hybridizer does not want an already flowered seedling registered, they should also state that they would refuse to give permission for its registration. If it has not flowered before purchase it can be registered by the purchaser without permission as long as it is the only plant of that seedling. At least that's how I interpret the instructions.

"Originator
The complete name and address of the originator must be given. The originator has been determined by the Board of Directors to be the person who has ownership of the entire cultivar when it blooms for the first time.

Name and Address of Registrant
This space is used only when a person other than the originator applies for the registration of the plant. In this case, the Registrant must have the written permission of the originator before the plant can be registered (see Permission Statements)."

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