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Gardnerwanabe
Jan 9, 2018 12:07 PM CST
What product can we use, in the winter, to treat winter weeds? We live in eastern Oklahoma.

Thanks!

Gardnerwanabe
Name: stone
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stone
Jan 9, 2018 4:48 PM CST
Personally, I don't believe in the "weeds" concept. God didn't create weeds.

You'll need to provide additional information for those people that do believe...

for instance, What plants specifically are you having difficulty with, and... what crop are you attempting to grow?

Kinda surprised that you have anything (at all) growing at this time of the year in Tulsa.
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greene
Jan 9, 2018 5:40 PM CST
I do believe; I do believe. Some weeds are medicinal, some are edible and not all need to be eradicated.

Please let us know the identity of what you are calling weeds. Also, are they in a field, a garden, a lawn, etc. Makes a difference how you treat so-called weeds.

Plus, do you have pets, livestock, young children or any other being that could get into the area being treated? That also makes a difference.

More information would be very helpful. Thank You!
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DaisyI
Jan 9, 2018 5:51 PM CST
According to my botany professor in college, a weed is a rose growing in the berry patch.

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porkpal
Jan 9, 2018 5:55 PM CST
I have a serious problem with nettle growing in the winter. The only thing that seems to discourage it is Remedy in a water solution with a sufactant added. An unwanted plant killer.
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stone
Jan 9, 2018 5:57 PM CST
DaisyI, Your prof sounds like one of those people who practice monoculture.

Really a bad practice... that practice creates huge pest/disease issues... as well as soil deprivation issues... and... the list goes on and on.

Edit:
Even modern Big Ag recognizes the importance of natural areas as buffer zones between fields.
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greene
Jan 9, 2018 6:15 PM CST
I'd like to know if the OP Gardnerwanabe has the surname Gardner or if he wants to be a gardener. Confused
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DaisyI
Jan 9, 2018 7:17 PM CST
stone said:DaisyI, Your prof sounds like one of those nutters who practice monoculture.

Really a bad practice... that practice creates huge pest/disease issues... as well as soil deprivation issues... and... the list goes on and on.


Confused I think you missed the point. Sighing! The point is that a plant out of place is a weed.

The OP asked how to kill weeds in the winter. My answer would be, suit up and get out the Roundup. It works slower in cold weather and may take a second treatment but it works.

They didn't ask us to judge or lecture, just how to kill weeds. If I was this OP, I wouldn't be back.
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Zuni
Jan 9, 2018 8:58 PM CST
My definition of a weed is a plant that is growing where i don't want it to grow. An invasive weed is one that doesn't take the hint that it's not wanted.
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DaisyI
Jan 9, 2018 9:14 PM CST
You got it!
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Name: stone
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stone
Jan 10, 2018 9:06 AM CST
DaisyI said:
I think you missed the point.
The point is that a plant out of place is a weed.


Nope.

I will walk around a neat plant that comes up in the middle of the path.

A "weed" is a plant that we don't know enough about to value.

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purpleinopp
Jan 10, 2018 9:57 AM CST
If the plants in question are ephemeral over winter, and will be gone when it warms up, why must anything be done? Isn't it nice to have *something* growing over winter? One of my fav things about late winter is when mowed areas turn purple before the first mow of the year. Might be a little later this year, having an actual winter down here.

If something must be done, raking or hoeing might take care of it, or smothering. Let this bounty do something positive for you/your gardens.

I'm also happy to have any kind of organic material to compost @ this time of year beyond kitchen scraps.
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Philipwonel
Jan 10, 2018 11:58 AM CST
@Gardnerwanabe . It's really SAD 😞 that a few members put you down like they did. Most of us don't act or talk that way.
Shame on them.

Type of weed, is good to know, so you can use the least lethal or maybe non-lethal option. Please send photo's of weed.

I bet a propane torch would work excellent. A few seconds, and weeds are toast. Please, keep a hose at stand-up. No poison !!!

As far as killing them,
I'm with Daisy and Zuni 👍

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Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
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purpleinopp
Jan 10, 2018 2:29 PM CST
I don't believe anyone was commenting with the purpose of being disparaging. This is not my first contact at all with anyone who has replied so far, and I am 100% confident that everyone wants to be helpful. There is no need to read to find unintentional unpleasantness "between the lines."

The 'cide approach has a very loud and powerful voice, at least in the US. I see the ads on websites, magazines, TV, as I'm sure everyone who exposes themselves to these forms of information and entertainment do. The idea that some plants are "bad" and that something must be done about it by purchasing and applying some type of product is virtually the only message available unless one opens a discussion like this one in some ephemeral spot on the internet or in person. Nobody makes any money if one doesn't buy some product to "fix" their "problem" and the profits on these products are what pay for the commercial messages that "educate" people to realize they have a problem and that it can be fixed with a product. The efficacy of the results are debatable, judging from the number of posts that we will see soon, assuming this spring is like every other since the invention of forums, about the failure of various products to work as advertised. Agree, much of the failure will be on the part of the user to fail to follow the instructions. When they do work, no doubt they are often an easy solution to the perceived problem.

I hope my comment lands on those who read it as I intended it to, as an attempt to enlighten, and to share a message that might be one to which they have not been exposed that it is not at all necessary to buy any product from a store to have a lawn, garden, whatever kind of plant-related scene you like. Whatever is preventing your garden situation from reaching the goal you had in mind will have a myriad of ways to attempt to change it that do not involved buying products. And often, upon examination of the goal itself, a completely different solution can arise, especially whenever a goal might be adjusted based on its' examination.

The first time I became a property owner, I had no idea that it was an option to not buy a mower, spreader, edger, & bags of stuff for the lawn. I don't know what I thought would happen if I did not do this, but since everyone else was doing it, I assumed it must be necessary. It never occurred to me that I could either kill the grass or just mow whatever grows there without giving any thought to whether it is actually grass, what kind, whether it more than one kind. Discovering this was like a miracle. I didn't have to consign myself to weekends of mowing for the rest of my life, a chore that I consider worse than getting a filling at the dentist, if there was no grass. Not that this solution would work for everyone, or be something they would also desire, but I offer it as an example of how I fixed my "lawn problem." I never wanted a lawn anyway, just beds of other plants, with some paths to walk around and look at them.

If, upon consideration and interesting discussion, one would disagree, that is fine, and unquestionably within their prerogative. It is your garden, your "weeds" to handle as you see fit. All I see is compost that I have not yet harvested to manipulate to my advantage.
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Philipwonel
Jan 10, 2018 4:02 PM CST
Gee ?🤔??? I kind of wonder what happened to @Gardnerwanabe ???
Ohh ! 😮 ??? That's right ! @Daisyl ended her response to Gardnerwanabe with !
If I was this OP, I wouldn't be back.

Not you Daisy, but the others, should go back ! And ! Actually ! READ ### for ownce !
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DaisyI
Jan 10, 2018 8:34 PM CST
Tiffany is right - there are a lot of ways to approach weed eradication. And obviously, some pretty passionate views.

When I first read this post, I didn't respond because I was visualizing miles and miles of Cheatgrass and there's only one way to deal with it and that is to spray it with an herbicide before it goes to seed and dies. Before you tell me there are other ways to deal with it, let me point out that 1.2 million acres of desert burned this year in Nevada and it was all because of a bumper crop of cheatgrass.

Because I understand those passionate views, I said nothing. In my defense, I don't use herbicides and I very rarely even fertilize. But I can see that once in awhile, they are the correct choice.

That's not what started the fireworks though. It was the definition of a weed and certain members insistence that we simply ban the work from the English language.

The original question was "What product can we use, in the winter, to treat winter weeds?" No one even stopped to consider that maybe Gardnerwanabe wanted to fertilize and encourage the weeds, not kill them.

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LorettaNJ
Jan 10, 2018 9:41 PM CST
Hey Gardnerwanabe,
A few questions about what you are doing. Are the weeds green, leafy and active at the moment? Is it grass or something leafy? How big of an area are you treating? And what is the purpose? Are you looking to replant an area or are you looking to control weeds between existing plantings? Are you doing a lawn?

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porkpal
Jan 10, 2018 9:53 PM CST
Good questions. I hope we have not lost our original poster.
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