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Name: Barbara
Northern CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Cat Lover Irises Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover
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iciris
Jan 17, 2018 8:57 PM CST
William said:Sherry, Barbara and Rob, so sorry about all the dead irises and the struggling ones, Sad Sad Sad

Not that providing shade for irises is something I ever intentionally plan for here with our colder summers, but I wonder if a shade net would help when needing to transplant in such brutally warm weather?


William, for the most part I do have them under shade in the summer, for some reason our sprinkler system (irrigation system) was not working properly and it was not covering the same area it did in years past. The sprinklers were fixed this last fall, and now I'm hoping they don't get too much water! D'Oh!
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Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Jan 17, 2018 9:56 PM CST
Totally_Amazing said:So sorry Sherry Sad . That would be disheartening.


I agree Crying Shrug!
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Peonies
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Lestv
Jan 18, 2018 2:11 PM CST
Hi Ian!

Sherry - that sounds like a huge amount lost. Could it be something in the soil? Was it a newly made bed? So sorry for the losses.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Jan 18, 2018 3:33 PM CST
Sherry, I agree with Leslie and the others, sorry for your plant loss! Sad
Not only people give others signs, but plants do too.
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Jan 18, 2018 3:40 PM CST
I almost forgot about Barbara and Rob. So sorry for your plant losses too. Crying I lost about half of my mystery daylily plants I got in a package in the mail last year. I also lost one of my favorite iris plants. It was a beautiful white one. Even though the plant didn't bloom much, (once or twice a year) I still felt bad for it. Sometimes plants can be like kids, you watch them grow up and then sometimes they get sick and perish. So sad, but it happens. Sad Sad Sad
Not only people give others signs, but plants do too.
Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
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Polymerous
Jan 18, 2018 7:32 PM CST
So sorry for your loss, Sherry, really.... it's disheartening to not even get to see a plant bloom. Crying

...but I think Rob really doesn't need another gopher. (And before you ask... the answer here is NO! Hilarious! )

DH was telling me this morning (after a quick walk up and around the back hill with Warp) that a woman he talked to (up there) had semi-tamed some feral cats, and now SHE no longer has gopher (or rat) problems (though she also had some work done rat-proofing her house). I think the feral cat mention was maybe a not so-subtle hint on DH's part... DH being a cat lover. (Warp and I, on the other hand...) Maybe your little dog would like a kitty friend?

I keep expecting to lose 'Hidden Surprise', which is (one of the few irises) in the ground, right in the area where the gopher has been causing problems. I'm hesitant to dig any of it up this time of year, though maybe I should try pulling and potting one rhizome "just in case".
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Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Jan 18, 2018 8:48 PM CST
Marilyn ~ Good luck with Hidden Surprise! Crossing Fingers!
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Region: California Irises Keeper of Poultry Roses Dragonflies Birds
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Henhouse
Jan 19, 2018 1:42 AM CST
Thank-you all..
Marilyn, my cat doesn't have much taste for gophers.. She doesn't get along with other cats, which is why I have her..
Robin, It was a combination of weather (very, very hot after transplanting, which weakened them), and gophers..
This pile was about 50/50. Pulled these tags yesterday.
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Name: Mika
Oxfordshire, England and Mento
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cliftoncat
Jan 19, 2018 2:12 AM CST
A very sad photo, Sherry. Crying Sad
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
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IrisLilli
Jan 19, 2018 7:38 AM CST
I agree with Mika. Sad Sad Sad

I can't imagine Warp would take kindly to any cat on his territory hunting 'his' critters - I know Cuddles wouldn't.
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Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Region: North Carolina Irises Cat Lover Garden Photography Enjoys or suffers hot summers Peonies
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Lestv
Jan 19, 2018 10:44 AM CST
Oh, I see you lost Beam Me Up Scotty. Mine died in the summer after blooming. It must not like heat very much.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
(Zone 9b)
Region: California
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UndertheSun
Jan 19, 2018 12:06 PM CST
That's sad Sherry. Sad If you lose anything I have, don't be shy in asking.

Welcome back Ian.
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Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
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Henhouse
Jan 19, 2018 12:45 PM CST
Leslie, 'Beam Me up Scotty' bloomed out. I was hopeful it would be a late increaser, but it just disappeared after that..
Losing 'Grand Canyon' hurt... I've had that one awhile and divided it for the HIPS sale this year.. All those things I'd divided in the summer in the past have done fine.. It was just too hot to keep up with the watering..
'Bali Rose' was another I was hoping to see bloom.. I like that era of tailored form from the 40's-50's.
I did at least get to see 'Mulberry Rose' bloom.. I think a gopher got that one...
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Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Jan 19, 2018 1:14 PM CST
Henhouse said:Leslie, 'Beam Me up Scotty' bloomed out. I was hopeful it would be a late increaser, but it just disappeared after that..
Losing 'Grand Canyon' hurt... I've had that one awhile and divided it for the HIPS sale this year.. All those things I'd divided in the summer in the past have done fine.. It was just too hot to keep up with the watering..
'Bali Rose' was another I was hoping to see bloom.. I like that era of tailored form from the 40's-50's.
I did at least get to see 'Mulberry Rose' bloom.. I think a gopher got that one...


"If it ain't one thing, it's another! " Thumbs down Crying
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
Name: Ian McBeth
Lincoln NE (Zone 5b)
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SonoveShakespeare
Jan 19, 2018 2:57 PM CST
cliftoncat said:A very sad photo, Sherry. Crying Sad


I agree I feel so bad for you Sherry!
Not only people give others signs, but plants do too.
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
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shizen
Jan 19, 2018 4:19 PM CST
👎 to your gophers sherry. sorry for all of your losses. i hope the number of losses were fewer than you thought, and hope that someone will be able to help you find or share replacements with you.
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
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evelyninthegarden
Jan 19, 2018 4:52 PM CST
shizen said:👎 to your gophers sherry. sorry for all of your losses. i hope the number of losses were fewer than you thought, and hope that someone will be able to help you find or share replacements with you.


I agree Group hug
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Name: Marilyn, aka "Poly"
South San Francisco Bay Area (Zone 9b)
"The mountains are calling..."
Region: California Garden Photography Garden Procrastinator Daylilies Pollen collector Dog Lover
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Polymerous
Jan 19, 2018 5:35 PM CST
IrisLilli said: I can't imagine Warp would take kindly to any cat on his territory hunting 'his' critters - I know Cuddles wouldn't.


Warp doesn't take kindly to cats anywhere. There have been a few times when he has taken off after cats while we were on a walk. Mostly it has just been annoying (because the cats almost always get away, but then I have to go stalk Warp down) Grumbling , but one time... Blinking

I don't know if I already told this story from sometime last year, but here goes.

We were doing a 1.5 mile loop around the neighborhood, one which we have not done much of in the past two years because of a) knee problems (it's hilly) and b) issues with 2 new dogs in the neighborhood (which were nowhere in evidence on our last few tours, so maybe they are gone now, or the owner got complaints and now keeps them indoors Crossing Fingers! ).

We were passing by a house, having climbed the last slight hill, when Warp yanked the leash out of my hand and took off for that house. I am always looking around to see if there is anything Warp might go after (so I can get a better grip on the leash), but I hadn't seen this cat. It was a dark cat on the sidewalk in front of the house, just standing there... and standing there, as Warp charged up to it, growling and barking.

I swear that I saw that cat's life flash before my eyes, as I was simultaneously screaming "NO! NO! WARP! NO!", sending earnest prayers heavenward, dreading/anticipating having to explain that cat's demise to its grieving and outraged owners, and hobbling over there as fast as I could.

Well, Warp arrived at the cat, which all this time had stood stock still, and he skidded to a halt. He was clearly confused - why hadn't this cat (like other cats, rabbits, whatever) run away? The cat continued to stand still while Warp walked around it, sniffing it in puzzlement. Confused

By this time I had gotten most of the way up there, was calling and praising (no longer screaming at) Warp, while shaking the treat bag* to encourage him to come to me. With more than a few mistrustful glances back at the cat, he came to me, I snatched his leash, and we beat a retreat off the property. I looked at the cat long enough to see that this was an old grizzled black cat, and when I looked back, it was slowly moving off into the bushes.

I have to tell you, it was a horrible several seconds until I got hold of Warp again.

* (I generally walk Warp while wearing a fully stocked small waist pack, which has doggie bags (and 1 gal Ziploc bags to secure said filled bags and trash in), disposable gloves, hand wipes, treats, collapsible water dish, and water if need be. And yes, I have used all of those.)
Evaluating an iris seedling, hopefully for rebloom
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
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IrisLilli
Jan 20, 2018 6:09 AM CST
A little too much excitement there, Marilyn. Blinking

Back to irises, I'm afraid several of the SDBs I planted in the blue and white bed last season have completely disappeared in the mud. Sad
You don't know if it will grow until you try!
Name: Bonnie Sojourner
Harris Brake Lake, Arkansas (Zone 7a)
Magnolia zone
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grannysgarden
Jan 20, 2018 6:17 AM CST
Oh, no, Lilli. Sad
Thro' all the tumult and the strife I hear the music ringing; It finds an echo in my soul— How can I keep from singing?

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