Plant ID forum: Pyracantha(2); Hardenbergia; Vaccinium; Cotoneaster & NOID

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Name: tarev
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tarev
Jan 31, 2012 7:25 PM CST
I have posted these photos on the thread for winter perennials, and since I do not know the names of these lovely plants, hoping someone can ID them.
1) Photo taken on 30 Jan 2012 - bushy plant with red berries
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/9e7c15
close-up of the berries:
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/cd0d8e

2)Photo taken today, 31Jan2012
This one is a vine of some sort, presently climbing our community fence.


3)This one is a bushy plant with dark berries:
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/b300fa

4) This one is another bushy plant with light blue berries:
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/a1535e
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/14e16f

5) This one is a bushy plant with yellowish orange berries:
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/109887
berry close-up:
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/18d328

6)This is a bushy plant with red berries, somehow similar to photo #1 but the leaves look slightly different in shape and the berries a little smaller too:
Thumb of 2012-02-01/tarev/ac67da

Thanks for the help in advance!
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jan 31, 2012 8:02 PM CST

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I think the top two are Pyracantha, the vine is Duranta, and the bottom photo is of a Cotoneaster.
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tarev
Jan 31, 2012 9:55 PM CST
Thanks Zuzu! So Photos #1 and #5 looks like Pyracantha, I guess they come in 2 colors; then the bottom photo #6 looks like Cotoneaster..am not sure about photo #2 being a Duranta, comparing it to other online photos, this one has no white edging. I hope you can help me with photo #4 too Smiling
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Feb 1, 2012 12:26 AM CST

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Oh, you're right. It's not Duranta. It's on the tip of my tongue (yuk!), but I can't think of the name. You must live near me because all of these things are growing all around me. I can't help you with 3 and 4. They're growing here, but I never found out their names. Maybe Sue knows what they are. She lives near me. I'll send her a link to this thread.

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tropicbreeze
Feb 1, 2012 1:42 AM CST
Plant #2 looks like Hardenbergia violacea.
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Feb 1, 2012 2:07 AM CST

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Yes, Zig. That's exactly what it is. The name I was trying to think of was Lilac Vine, but that's only the common name of Hardenbergia violacea.
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SongofJoy
Feb 1, 2012 4:59 AM CST
I know from my CA days two of those plants are Pyracantha and, yes, it comes in two colors.

What is the one with the blue berries? It looks so familiar?
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SongofJoy
Feb 1, 2012 5:00 AM CST
I know from my CA days two of those plants are Pyracantha (1 and 5) and, yes, it comes in two colors.

What is the one with the blue berries? It looks so familiar?
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JRsbugs
Feb 1, 2012 6:31 AM CST
4 looks like Blueberry, genus Vaccinium.

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Feb 1, 2012 6:33 AM CST
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JRsbugs
Feb 1, 2012 6:47 AM CST
3 resembles Gaultheria shallon .. could be wrong though!

http://www.netartsbaytoday.org/html/red_flowers.html

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Gaultheria+shallon&um=1&ie=...
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tarev
Feb 1, 2012 10:12 AM CST
Hello and Happy Feb First to all! Thanks for all the ID help! You are right Zuzu, we live near your area but we are classified Central Valley already as soon as you go over the Altamont Pass coming from the East Bay area.

So as you all said:
Photos #1 and #5 = Pyracantha
Photos #2 = Hardenbergia violacea
Photos #3 = not sure if the Gaultheria shallon ID is right, the leaves of this plant looks lighter in color and a different shape.
Photo #4 = Vaccinium
Photo #6 = cotoneaster

Again a ton of thanks!! Maybe if I chance upon plant #3 later in Spring and if it also bears flowers, it can be given a clearer ID Big Grin
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zuzu
Feb 1, 2012 1:07 PM CST

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So the one with blue berries is a blueberry? Why didn't I guess that? Hilarious!

Janet, I'm also not sure about the Gaultheria. Those photos look like an idealized version of the shrubs around here. For lack of a more scientific term, they always look more ratty than that. Maybe they need special care and the ones I see around here are growing wild and are left to the mercy of harmful pests.
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JRsbugs
Feb 1, 2012 5:41 PM CST
I don't know why you didn't guess blueberry Zuzu, maybe you couldn't see the woods for the trees. Hilarious!

Gaultheria shallon is close, the berries certainly look very close. I don't know if the shrubs shown are in a garden and if they are they would look better than those in the wild. Some shrubs do go pale if they don't have the correct conditions or soil, and if they get too much sun. My neighbour has a shrub which looks similar but I don't have a clue what it is, the flowers are white and small but not dangling tubular flowers. The leaves are leathery and smell strongly of citrus, sort of like tangerine when crushed. It makes smaller red berries but few of them.

When it flowers we should get a better idea. Both Vaccinium and Gaultheria are in Ericaceae! A look through some of the genera there might reveal something closer.

http://luirig.altervista.org/famiglienam/ericaceae.htm
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hementia
Feb 4, 2012 10:19 AM CST
Pyrocanthus will have thorns some 2" unless there are new varieties where the thorns have been bred out
I have not heard of any
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Feb 4, 2012 10:38 AM CST
Yes, there are several cultivars that are thornless or nearly thornless. Green Grin!
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Feb 4, 2012 4:07 PM CST
# 4 looks like Carolina Cherry laurel, Prunus caroliniana http://wildflower.org/gallery/result.php?id_image=23933
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