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Name: Larry
Hill Country TX (Zone 8b)
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ricelg
Jan 21, 2018 5:55 PM CST
Anyone know of a source, database, etc that identifies plants that are self fertile (generate their own seed without pollination)? I'm particularly interested WRT Salvias (posting in that forum as well). Thanks!
Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Jan 22, 2018 6:08 PM CST
Your definition of self fertile is incorrect, so your search will be equally misguided. Seeds produced without pollenation are apomictic, and they can be produced by plants that self fertile or self infertile.

Self fertile means that a flower can be successfully fertilized with its own pollen or pollen from any flower on the same exact plant.

Self infertile means that a flower cannot be successfully fertilized with its own pollen or pollen from any flower on the same exact plant. Flowers of a species that is self infertile must be pollinated with pollen from a different plant to be successful.
Name: Larry
Hill Country TX (Zone 8b)
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ricelg
Jan 22, 2018 9:02 PM CST
OK, thanks. Do you know where I could find a list of what plants or plant families are apomictic?

Cosimo89
Jan 23, 2018 4:48 AM CST
ricelg said:Anyone know of a source, database, etc that identifies plants that are self fertile (generate their own seed without pollination)? I'm particularly interested WRT Salvias (posting in that forum as well). Thanks!


Hi,

I think that are not plants without pollination need.
Name: Rick R.
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Leftwood
Jan 23, 2018 4:37 PM CST
I only know of a few(that can be apomictic), but there are many many more, I'm sure.
Ranunculus
Sorbus
Taraxacum
Lilium
And these are almost never an either/or situation. Most of the time, a genus or a species within the genus have the ability to produce both sexual and apomictic seed at varying degrees. Even the same plant may change its ratio (of sexual to apomictic seed) from one year to the next, due to (usually) unknown factors. Taraxacum is usually 100% apomictic, and there must be others, but I don't know.

Sorry I can't be of more assistance.


edited for clarity.
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Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Jan 27, 2018 7:07 AM CST

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I thought tomatoes were self pollinating...

Karen
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN, USA zon
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Leftwood
Jan 27, 2018 9:36 AM CST
Tomatoes are usually self pollinating, and because it is a successful pollination, tomatoes are also self fertile. But this is not apomixis. There are no contradictions here. These three concepts fit together nicely.

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