Hibiscus forum: ID Unknown Hardy Hibiscus Cultivars

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awhite522
Jan 21, 2018 6:34 PM CST
I know that it's winter but hopefully someone can help me out.

I have been growing hardy hibiscus from seed that were given to me, but I completely do not remember what the mother plant of the seeds looked like. Some of the flowers came out white with the red center and pale pink, so nothing special.

But 2 of them look really unique and I've been searching the web and I can't find anything similar to them, so I was wondering if they came true from seed of some kind of named variety or if it happened by chance.

Do any of these 2 hardy hibiscus in the picture look like any existing cultivars that you know? Thanks for the help.

1) bubble gum pink color hardy hibiscus with white throat

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2) hot pink hardy hibiscus with interesting color and petal shape

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Name: Diana
Southeast Missouri (Zone 6a)
Region: Missouri Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Cat Lover Hibiscus Daylilies
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DraDiana
Apr 1, 2018 5:05 PM CST
Hmmm, if they turn out to be truly unique, maybe you can register one or two new varieties with "parents unknown". The hot pink one is particularly intriguing. I haven't seen any exactly like either of them, but I haven't seen all the cultivars in existence, either.
The cultivars are hybrids and don't breed true, even when crossed back on themselves. Even offspring that look identical to the parent(s) are not genetically identical. Identical plants can only be obtained from cuttings or tissue culture. That is why the trademarked plant tags say "asexual reproduction prohibited", but allow you to collect and grow seeds.
Name: Josh Pisciotta
Lawrence Kansas (Zone 6a)
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JoshP
Apr 8, 2018 9:21 AM CST
I recieved some hardy hibiscus seeds at a seed fair called "Pink Elephant" that look similar.
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awhite522
Apr 8, 2018 1:16 PM CST
JoshP said:I recieved some hardy hibiscus seeds at a seed fair called "Pink Elephant" that look similar.
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Thanks for the reply, I've seen those and there is some resemblance, but the shape of the petals is different (shape of "Pink Elephant" is closer to the 1st pic, the light pink with the white throat), and the "Pink Elephant" doesn't seem have a very close shade of pink or the noticeable darker stripes on the petals of the one I have.

I'd love to see what the mother plant in bloom looks like from which my seeds were taken originally just to satisfy my curiosity, but I've collected my seeds from different plants in different places and had so many plain ones grow, that I've got no idea anymore where these special ones came from Confused
Name: Diana
Southeast Missouri (Zone 6a)
Region: Missouri Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Cat Lover Hibiscus Daylilies
Irises Vegetable Grower Canning and food preservation Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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DraDiana
Apr 8, 2018 9:10 PM CST
Pink Elephant's most special feature is dinner plate sized flowers. According to this site's plant database, Pink Elephant is a hybrid of a Hibiscus moscheutos cultivar and a Hibiscus coccineus cultivar.
@JoshP there's no telling what varieties of babies your seeds will grow out, but I'll bet there won't be an ugly one in the bunch!
@awhite523 - please post pictures when your seedlings bloom this year.
My seedlings may not get big enough to bloom this year, but I'll post pictures if they do.
Name: Diana
Southeast Missouri (Zone 6a)
Region: Missouri Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Cat Lover Hibiscus Daylilies
Irises Vegetable Grower Canning and food preservation Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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DraDiana
Apr 8, 2018 9:13 PM CST
@awhite522 - I tried to tag you in my previous post, but I made a typo...
Name: Josh Pisciotta
Lawrence Kansas (Zone 6a)
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JoshP
Apr 9, 2018 9:51 AM CST
Will do...unfortunately only 2 out of 18 germinated. Still can't wait to see what they look like!
Name: Diana
Southeast Missouri (Zone 6a)
Region: Missouri Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Cat Lover Hibiscus Daylilies
Irises Vegetable Grower Canning and food preservation Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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DraDiana
Apr 9, 2018 4:58 PM CST
Josh,
I'm getting about 50% germination on my hybrid crosses (self collected seed), but I only got 2 of 20 Hibiscus coccineus from a seed exchange.
Hurray! for the two!

awhite522
Apr 9, 2018 6:57 PM CST
@DraDiana, Sure I'll post some pics when they bloom this year.

I moved all my hibiscus around in the fall and lost track of what spot exactly these 2 were planted, It seems one of my plants died but i'm 80% sure that it is one of the plain white or pale pink one's, and not one these 2 nice ones.

So I will have to wait for them all to bloom and mark their spot so I know for sure where each color is. I Hope this year there will be more than 1 flower on these since they will be older and should have more stems this season.

I have 2 or 3 others grown from seed of which I have not seen a single flower...and it's been 2 years which is really frustrating me, hopefully this 3rd year I will get at least one flower to judge and decide whether to keep or get rid of. These ones have not been as vigorous as the other ones and somewhat stunted for unknown reasons. So maybe it's some kind of interesting hybrid or just weak plants that have been taking up space, maybe this year will tell me which one it is.
Name: Diana
Southeast Missouri (Zone 6a)
Region: Missouri Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Cat Lover Hibiscus Daylilies
Irises Vegetable Grower Canning and food preservation Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Enjoys or suffers cold winters
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DraDiana
Apr 10, 2018 5:40 AM CST
@awhite522
Reading your post inspired me to individually label my named seedlings last night, instead of trusting that they would stay in their assigned rows with children about. I got about 35 done before I ran out of labels.
I read a post the other day (irises or daylilies?) where an amateur hybridizer said they would throw out seedlings that hadn't bloomed in so many years, because - who wants a variety that hardly ever blooms? I will have a hard time tossing any of them, I'm sure...

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