Plant ID forum: Some kind of weed or...?

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krystenr1
Jan 23, 2018 8:51 AM CST
Found in my backyard in Los Angeles.

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Yorkshirelass
Jan 23, 2018 10:05 AM CST
It looks like one of the many varieties of Carex. I'd class is as a weed and pull it up.
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sooby
Jan 23, 2018 10:28 AM CST
I think it is a grass, but it does look weedy. It's hard to identify without seeing it close-up. You can tell if it is a grass or a sedge (Carex) by cutting across the stem. If it is triangular in cross-section it is sedge, if it is round it is a grass. One flower head looks somewhat like a Panicum grass - if you could get the most representative flower head and set it on white printer paper and get a closer picture we may be able to identify it more accurately but it'll still be a weed (the definition of a weed being a plant growing where you don't want it).
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jan 23, 2018 10:29 AM CST
I agree with Sooby
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jan 23, 2018 12:19 PM CST
The seed heads are definitely grassy, but I don't know which grass.
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 23, 2018 5:03 PM CST
My first thought was weedy crabgrass, Digitaria of some sort but I can't see it clearly and am only going on the growth habit which is the same for a lot of weeds. Rolling on the floor laughing
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krystenr1
Jan 23, 2018 9:57 PM CST
It feels very soft to the touch. In my experience crab grass tends to be a bit rough, no?
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jan 23, 2018 11:00 PM CST
The bottom line is, you like it...OR you don't like it. Pull it or leave it.

Crabgrass seed heads are 3-directional (I think) and not bunching (and a lot of running under ground). Pull them up before they go to seed. Quick!
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tx_flower_child
Jan 23, 2018 11:54 PM CST
I don't think it's crabgrass. I think it's some type of sedge. Here's a link to our Plants Database section on sedges.
https://garden.org/plants/sear...

I don't imagine that you could ID yours (assuming it is a sedge) from all of the pictures. But you might get an idea that sedges can be an attractive addition to a garden.

But on the other hand, I could be wrong and maybe it is crabgrass. It just doesn't look like mine.
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jan 24, 2018 7:48 AM CST
If the seed heads shown belong to the plant in question it is a grass.
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Jan 24, 2018 10:14 AM CST
porkpal said:If the seed heads shown belong to the plant in question it is a grass.


I agree And if we could get a sharper closer picture of the typical flowers/seed heads against a plain background we'd have a better chance of identifying it.

Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jan 24, 2018 10:47 AM CST
I think its grass, just not crabgrass.
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jan 24, 2018 1:27 PM CST
Me too.
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greene
Jan 24, 2018 2:08 PM CST
Maybe I am dense or stupid? Why are we talking this plant to death instead of ripping it out by the roots and planting something more desirable?? Shrug! Blinking Confused
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jan 24, 2018 2:55 PM CST
greene said:Why are we talking this plant to death instead of ripping it out by the roots and planting something more desirable?? Shrug! Blinking Confused


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Maybe an exact ID has been found for the plant in question and I missed it but it's up to krystenr1 to decide if she wants to close the thread or not. Many threads in the Plant ID Forum stay open for quite awhile, in hopes of getting an exact ID.

Since the plant is growing in her yard, it's her decision whether she feels it's desirable to keep rip out; perhaps she plans to wait and see how it progresses in the coming months. Just like the saying, one mans trash is another's treasure ... a weed to one person may be a desirable plant to another.

We don't have to continue following threads and talking about the plant in question if we choose not to but I've been following this thread because I'm interested to see if we find out exactly what the plant might be.
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Jan 24, 2018 4:08 PM CST
Curiosity?
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Name: Laurie b
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lauriebasler
Jan 24, 2018 4:42 PM CST
@krystenr1. It would be nice to know what your feelings are about this grass. Is it something you want to experiment with. What do you know about it. Any idea how tall and wide it will get. Have you ever had a really terrible weed show up in your gardens you spent years trying to get rid of????

In my experience, if something new has volunteered in my yard, it is an unwanted weed 80% of the time. But I have a couple plants I care for that are from the other 20%, and I adore them. Gardeners who have let a pretty weed stay and then lived to regret it, just don't take any chances, and so we will almost always suggest ripping it out, so you don't find yourself pulling weeds all the time for the next two years. And that advice is good advice, with good intentions.

I would be sure to move it somewhere on your property that is not at the front door, or in a main flower beds. You can even stick it in a flower pot. Once moved I would keep an eye on it. How does the foliage change, does it go to seed. Is there a tap root? At summers end you can decide if it deserves a place in your yard. If your beautiful baby plant is and ugly thug at this time, at least it never got a foothold in your higher maintenance areas of the yard.

It's pretty grass!



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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Jan 24, 2018 4:57 PM CST
greene said:Maybe I am dense or stupid? Why are we talking this plant to death instead of ripping it out by the roots and planting something more desirable?? Shrug! Blinking Confused


Because Krystenr1 asked what it was, not whether she should rip it out. (I would have ripped it out before I asked) Smiling

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krystenr1
Jan 24, 2018 6:32 PM CST
Hi guys! Wow, lots of interest in this one! To explain where I'm coming from: I moved into my first house six months ago and have always been strictly a carer of houseplants prior to that. With the new house, I have started doing some container and pot gardening, but nothing in the ground. My yard is still a bit of a blank slate - the previous owner was elderly and let the yard go neglected for several years. Dead grass and weeds in the front, and a few nice drought resistant hedges. The backyard (where this plant is growing) has been mostly just a barren place full of dirt and a few scraggly "weeds" that managed to survive the very hot sun of a south-facing Los Angeles yard and virtually no water, since I hadn't been paying any attention to the yard yet until I figured out my landscaping plans. Recently, we had a few days of crazy rain, and all of these things started to sprout and grow! Some of them are very clearly undesirables (to me, that is, as we've determined it's all subjective!), but other things that cropped up seemed to provide a possible window into a not-so-distant past, when the previous owner may have actually had a garden or some sort of planned landscaping (I have found what appears to maybe be swiss chard, as well as numerous dead snake plants and various succulents in different states of health, as well as a few drought-resistant plants that if I were to purchase at nursery here today would cost me a pretty penny). So! As someone still unsure of my future plans for the backyard, and also someone interested in a glimpse of what may have once been, I am interested in letting some plants one might consider weeds do their thing for now. When I decide what my plans are, I will keep everyone abreast!
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Zuni
Jan 25, 2018 1:23 AM CST
I've done a ton of gardening in my lifetime. I would have no doubts about pulling that up as an unwanted weed. I just know enough about grassy weeds to know I would not want that one, even if I didn't know it's exact latin name. There are few "wanted" plants, in my opinion, that look like grass you'd find anywhere.

The easiest way to do it, is to get the ground really wet first. They pull up more easily after that.

If you still have trouble removing any plants you don't want, another really nice tool is the prong thing you can stand up while using, you jam it into the dirt and twist. They work great and don't kill your back - just in case you have a bunch of weeds you want to get rid of.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hou...

Enjoy your new place!
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