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Name: Kelly
Louisiana (Zone 9a)
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TeacHerGardening
Jan 28, 2018 6:30 AM CST
Almost three years ago I moved into my home and I'll be the first to admit that I haven't taken care of the rose bushes the previous owners planted the way I should have. (The most I've done is prune them and lay down mulch.)

I don't know the exact type they are, but I've noticed that they are pretty hardy in general considering my neglect. One of my goals for 2018 is to rejuvenate and take better care of them. We're just coming off of a hard freeze which is very unusual in southern Louisiana/Zone 9. I've read that I shouldn't feed them until the spring, but considering that they haven't been properly fed for three years, I have no idea where to even begin after pruning. I was thinking of using the specialty soil for roses once it becomes available, but what can I do now to better prepare them for the work that lies ahead?

Any help/tips would be greatly appreciated.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Jan 28, 2018 7:48 AM CST
Howdy and Welcome : Kelly I tip my hat to you.
Well,... Depends how you want them to look. So much you can do with them. How do you want them to look ? Short. Tall. Real tall. In a hedge. ?🤔???🕵️🤔🕵️🤔🕵️
Plus, a few pics, close and further away will help.

Your basic bush pruning is : Choose, Three healthy canes, about 1 inch diameter, and cut them 12 inches long. Cut everything else off. That's for fewer, but, bigger roses.

For more, but smaller roses. Leave 5 canes, and cut them 18 inches long.

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Name: Andrea Reagan
Astatula, Florida (Zone 9a)
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Kevalsha
Jan 28, 2018 7:56 AM CST
I would wait to fertilize them in the spring. Go to: https://www.almanac.com/plant/... for more info.
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Jan 28, 2018 8:00 AM CST
It would help to know what kind of roses you have. Hybrid tea roses respond well to the pruning that Philip describes, old garden roses prefer less cutting back. Pictures would definitely make it easier to advise you .
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Name: Kelly
Louisiana (Zone 9a)
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TeacHerGardening
Jan 28, 2018 8:29 AM CST
Thanks so much for your responses so far. I took this photo years ago and managed to find it. I don't know what kind of rose this is. For now, I think I'd like to just prune them down to get bigger blooms. I don't have any pictures of the bushes, but I'm going to work on that as soon as the weather down here begins to behave itself. (It's been raining like crazy.)

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Name: Kelly
Louisiana (Zone 9a)
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TeacHerGardening
Jan 28, 2018 3:48 PM CST
I found a page on roses

on the LSU Ag Center website, and they recommended pruning roses in late January. I tried loading photos on here from my phone, but I'm not sure it's going to work. I'm still not quite sure if I've pruned enough, but I'm hoping this will be a great fresh start.
Name: Kelly
Louisiana (Zone 9a)
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TeacHerGardening
Jan 28, 2018 3:50 PM CST
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Jan 28, 2018 4:05 PM CST
Kelly, trim them all, like your last picture, then you'll have a good start. 👍

Roses are, drought tolerant, tuff, and hardy. You can't hardly kill them, even if you cut them to ground !

Good job 😀!!!
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Name: Dave
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Nhra_20
Jan 28, 2018 7:26 PM CST
Roses have not grown good for me here. I get all foliage, no blooms. About to pull them all out and replace with peony.
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
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ctcarol
Jan 28, 2018 7:31 PM CST
You may need to try a different type of rose. Not all do well in all locations. I just removed my roses because I was tired of them after 30 years. Wish I could grow Peony here. Hilarious!
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Jan 29, 2018 11:22 AM CST
Dave and Kelly :
DONT !!! Be afraid of SEVERELY pruning them, ya ain't gonna kill them.
3-5 healthy canes, cut to 12-18 inches long. You don't want branches on canes, cut branches off any canes.

Right now, y'all should give them a dose of Empson Salt. It's potassium, ( not like table salt ) it releases elements roses need, for bigger and more Bloom's. Read up on it, if you don't believe me.
Empson Salt twice a year, fall and spring. It's a supplement to Rose Fertilizer.

Roses are drought tolerant ! Butt, they do better with a watering, usually twice a week, depending how warm it is.
Also, they never really go dormant. They usually need some water in winter.

Server pruning, promotes rapid growth. Especially, Roses !
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Jan 29, 2018 12:03 PM CST
Severe spring pruning will prevent some roses from flowering in that year, it depends if they are ones that flower on old wood from the previous year or whether they flower on new wood. The same thing happens when winter "prunes" some in my climate, like old shrub roses. Those roses that flower on old wood won't flower because the cold kills the flower buds.

Philip, Epsom salts do not contain potassium. They are magnesium sulfate. If the soil is magnesium deficient then it will help because most fertilizers don't contain magnesium, but isn't always needed.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Jan 29, 2018 12:37 PM CST
Thanks 😀 for correcting me there Sue 👍
Those dog-gone, P, M, and E words allways kills me Grumbling .
I didn't even spell Epsom right D'Oh!

It's just that so many people think epsom salt is bad, when it's not. All it can do is help. If it doesn't help, then don't use it. Buy a big 14 lb. Box at Sam's Club, for cheep. Plus, its good for more things than the vegetable garden.
Its worth a try. Probably cheeper than a soil test, and it's not like, your going to throw it away, when you can use it for so many other things.
What do they say ?🤔??? Oh yes, read the lable.

Good day ! Y'all, and garden ON 👍

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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Keeper of Poultry Farmer Roses Raises cows
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porkpal
Jan 29, 2018 1:16 PM CST
Some old roses take offense at being pruned and never recover. Let's figure out who these roses are.
Porkpal
Name: Kelly
Louisiana (Zone 9a)
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TeacHerGardening
Feb 25, 2018 12:00 PM CST
A few weeks ago I pruned my rose bushes, and after a proper feeding this is what the look like today. I'm so pleased.
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Feb 25, 2018 12:45 PM CST
HAY !!! I recognize those Roses 🕵️.
Them are Kelly's roses !!!
Hurray! Kelly Hurray! 👍😀😀😀
Gee, Kelly. We're in supposedly ? Rolling on the floor laughing !!! Same, USDA, zone, Rolling on the floor laughing
Are roses, are just starting to grow. Personally !!!
I know ! The USDA zone thing, is B.S. Thumbs down

Did you give any Empson Salt ?
I just got a box at Sam's Club, and I'm going to go feed my sister's roses some. 👍

Now, keep them dead-headed, to keep them blooming. 👍

Ttfn 💃
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