Plant Database forum: Updates needed for a few in the Chirita genus

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Name: Lin
Southeast Florida (Zone 10a)

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plantladylin
Feb 1, 2018 12:22 PM CST
The following plants are not found in the CoL:







Also, the CoL shows the following as synonyms:

~ Didymocarpus cortusifolius synonym for
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

~ synonym for
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

~ Didymocarpus heucherifolius synonym for
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

~ for Chirita fordii
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

~ Didymostigma obtusum synonym for
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

~ Chirita asperifolia synonym for
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...

~ synonym for Chirita caerulea
http://www.catalogueoflife.org...
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Feb 1, 2018 2:10 PM CST

Plants Admin

Thanks, Lin. I'll update all of the Chiritas later today. It's a genus that changes quite frequently.
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Feb 1, 2018 2:53 PM CST
Zuzu, thanks! I thought many Chirita had changed to Primulina genus but then when I saw only one species of Primulina listed I was really confused! It's crazy how they keep changing them around! Blinking
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Feb 1, 2018 3:14 PM CST

Plants Admin

Yes, that plan to reclassify all Chiritas as Primulinas and the subsequent scrapping of the plan confused many of us. Smiling
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Feb 1, 2018 6:09 PM CST
I remember some of them changing to Primulina, others to Henckelia; I guess some taxonomists just can't make up their minds!
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Name: Rob Duval
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robertduval14
Feb 2, 2018 11:13 AM CST

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plantladylin said:I guess some taxonomists just can't make up their minds!


It's so much worse than that, you would not believe the ego some of those types have. (I dealt with quite a few of them in the arachnid field, tarantulas in particular, at one point in my life). Then you have the 'lumpers' that tend to not like splitting Genus into new ones or declaring sub-species and the 'splitters' that have a much higher tendency to split up Genus and accept a greater number of sub-species.

None of them like to be proved wrong, unless it their own work that led to that conclusion.

I'm waiting for the dawn of the age of the 'DNA'er' taxonomists. Once DNA sequencing gets to the appropriate level and cost effectiveness, changing where everything is placed based on often tiny physical differences will cease to be, as the DNA will show plant relationships much more clearly. Until then...well, you know the old saying 'The more things change, the more they stay the same'...

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