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Name: Cal McGaugh Escondido, California (Zone 10b)  EscondidoCal Feb 3, 2018 4:08 AM CST |
| This rose was planted in 1996, and I've really enjoyed its blooms this year. (In fact, I've enjoyed all our plants much more since joining NGA last July) I don't know its name....I know it's not Double Delight, which we also have.  (see slideshow http://www.cal3d.com/NGA2018/r...) Though the stems are weak, and the blooms droop, each bloom seems to last at least a week, and are especially eye-catching when backlit by the sun. Learn & create something every day. Our Duck Pond The thread "Pool to Natural Pond Conversion" in Ponds and Water Gardening forum |
Name: Steve Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)      Steve812 Feb 3, 2018 10:07 AM CST |
| My first impression upon watching the slide show is that the rose is Peace. But there are other possibilities. In an effort to find a large portion of the roses one might consider before narrowing the field, I did a search at HMF. There are more possibilities than this; but (if the rose is not Peace or Double Delight) I think there might be a good chance that the rose is among these choices... Possible: Love and Peace, Centennial Star, Pink Paradise, Lady Mavis Pilkington aka KORlitse (just finding this rose at HMF made my search for candidates worthwhile...) Unlikely: Augusta Louise, Bella Roma, Belle Epoque, Comtesse Vandal, Emily(Guillot), Faberge, Mullem, My Choice, Oriental Dawn, Party Time, Solitaire, Tarantella (only listed here so I can remember it..) When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes. |
Name: Cal McGaugh Escondido, California (Zone 10b) EscondidoCal Feb 4, 2018 3:00 AM CST |
| @Steve812 Thanks for the feedback.  I think it's "Love & Peace" .....at least that's what it looks like, and what I'll call it for now. Not as fragrant as I'd like, but very beautiful......it glows.  Learn & create something every day. Our Duck Pond The thread "Pool to Natural Pond Conversion" in Ponds and Water Gardening forum |
Name: Steve Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b) Steve812 Feb 5, 2018 10:57 AM CST |
| Thanks, Cal. I've only ever seen Love and Peace once, almost 20 years ago and it did not look nearly so good. Is it a salvia or a penstemon in your avatar? It's a lovely shade of blue, and hard to get enough of in the garden. Edited for consistency with an earlier post.. When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes. |
Name: Cal McGaugh Escondido, California (Zone 10b) EscondidoCal Feb 5, 2018 4:47 PM CST |
Steve812 said:Thanks, Cal. I've only ever seen Love and Peace once, almost 20 years ago and it did not look nearly so good. Thanks Steve.....the avatar is a volunteer blue salvia......no clue where it came from, but it's easy to propagate as it grows through the soil. Want some? Learn & create something every day. Our Duck Pond The thread "Pool to Natural Pond Conversion" in Ponds and Water Gardening forum |
Name: Porkpal Richmond, TX             porkpal Feb 5, 2018 5:54 PM CST |
| I wish pretty things like that wold pop up in my garden! - but I would probably assume it was undesirable and yank it out. Porkpal |
Name: Cal McGaugh Escondido, California (Zone 10b) EscondidoCal Feb 5, 2018 6:57 PM CST |
porkpal said:I wish pretty things like that wold pop up in my garden! - but I would probably assume it was undesirable and yank it out. Might look real nice mixed in with your Mexican bonebract. Anybody wants a start, just send me an treemail. Learn & create something every day. Our Duck Pond The thread "Pool to Natural Pond Conversion" in Ponds and Water Gardening forum |
Name: Nora Castlegar, B. C. Canada (Zone 5b)           HemNorth Feb 5, 2018 6:58 PM CST |
| Hello @Steve812 I'm not familiar with being able to use something called 'EMF' as a tool for searching for Roses. Could you tell me what it stands for, please? I'm assuming it is a Website? Thank you so much. And Cal, thank you for asking the question. I too have a pink and yellow rose which has no ID, so maybe I can get some answers. I've had Double Delight for 25 years, and just looked through 120 photos of them - they are so photogenic, and have so many different appearances. I had the Peace rose too, but not a rose that liked to hang upside down like yours. By the way, I also like your Blue Salvia avatar - such a piercing blue that shoots straight to the heart. |
Name: Amanda KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)        pepper23 Feb 5, 2018 7:39 PM CST |
| Here's the website Steve was talking about. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose... |
Name: Cal McGaugh Escondido, California (Zone 10b) EscondidoCal Feb 5, 2018 11:19 PM CST |
HemNorth said: Cal, thank you for asking the question. I too have a pink and yellow rose which has no ID, so maybe I can get some answers. I've had Double Delight for 25 years, and just looked through 120 photos of them - they are so photogenic, and have so many different appearances. I had the Peace rose too, but not a rose that liked to hang upside down like yours. I love Double Delight for its fragrance and colors, too. Also Gertrude Jekyll, Abraham Darby, and Intrigue for fragrance as well as color & form. Learn & create something every day. Our Duck Pond The thread "Pool to Natural Pond Conversion" in Ponds and Water Gardening forum |
Name: Nora Castlegar, B. C. Canada (Zone 5b) HemNorth Feb 6, 2018 4:40 AM CST |
| Thank you, pepper23, for the website info. Hooray - another tool to use! And Cal, thanks for your input about FRAGRANCE! To me, that is an absolute essential criterion. I also have Gertrude Jekyll and Abraham Darby, but now am alerted to the beautiful 'Intrigue' rose, and would like to add it to my small collection. Another essential in regard to fragrance, is Fragrant Cloud.  |
Name: Steve Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b) Steve812 Feb 6, 2018 9:50 AM CST |
HemNorth said:Hello @Steve812 I have a membership at HelpMeFind which allows for quite sophisticated searches. It's a powerful tool, but it can take some patience. HMF, even without the membership, is a great place to look for photos of roses and peonies. Sorry for duplicating information that Amanda has already mentioned, but I do go there very frequently. edited for punctuation When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes. |
Name: Steve Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b) Steve812 Feb 6, 2018 9:59 AM CST |
| @EscondidoCal I would be happy for some blue salvia, if you had extra. I'm a great fan of salvias because they are one of the few kinds of plants that survive the low water/hungry critter pressures here. When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes. |
Name: Nora Castlegar, B. C. Canada (Zone 5b) HemNorth Feb 6, 2018 1:25 PM CST |
| @EscondidoCal - - - Cal, I was just looking at a thread about Landscape photos, and @Calif_Sue had a Photo of Graham Thomas, which I clicked on. It took me to that page, where, at the bottom, where Landscape photos are, was a Photo of her Graham Thomas Rose with a blue Salvia called Blue Anise Sage (Salvia coerulea 'Costa Rica Blue'). Oh - - - I guess I could drag the pic to here! It does say that it is a tall plant - 4 to 6 ft., and Cold hardiness is Zone 9a to 11. Don't know whether that is a match or not, but it does have some similarities to your avatar: the rich blue, and the purplish buds. Could it be the one? Just wondering.  |
Name: Steve Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b) Steve812 Feb 6, 2018 1:35 PM CST |
| That is a lovely photo. And I find it useful to have a name attached to the salvia. My own GT has never had blossoms quite that pale in color, but it really is the perfect yellow for the salvia. When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes. |
Name: Frank Mosher Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a)      fwmosher Feb 6, 2018 1:45 PM CST |
| While I cannot justify the drooping bloom, it may well be either "Glowing Peace" or "Chicago Peace", both widely sold throughout the USA and Canada. It looks a little too "fluorescent" to be "Peace". Anyway, pretty rose!! |
Name: Frank Mosher Nova Scotia, Canada (Zone 6a) fwmosher Feb 6, 2018 7:33 PM CST |
A picture of my "Glowing Peace". The rose "Love and Peace" is a relatively newly (Canadian) introduced rose, and was not around twenty years ago. |
Name: Cal McGaugh Escondido, California (Zone 10b) EscondidoCal Feb 6, 2018 7:46 PM CST |
Steve812 said:@EscondidoCal I would be happy for some blue salvia, if you had extra. I'm a great fan of salvias because they are one of the few kinds of plants that survive the low water/hungry critter pressures here. Hey Steve, please treemail me your address & I'll send you a starter plant. HemNorth said:@EscondidoCal - - - Cal, I was just looking at a thread about Landscape photos, and @Calif_Sue had a Photo of Graham Thomas, which I clicked on. It took me to that page, where, at the bottom, where Landscape photos are, was a Photo of her Graham Thomas Rose with a blue Salvia called Blue Anise Sage (Salvia coerulea 'Costa Rica Blue'). Very nice combo. Could be the same salvia, though thought I've seen others that look the same. Mine is only ~2ftx2ft......but doesn't get a lot of light under the trees where it is......gets just morning light. fwmosher said:While I cannot justify the drooping bloom, it may well be either "Glowing Peace" or "Chicago Peace", both widely sold throughout the USA and Canada. It looks a little too "fluorescent" to be "Peace". Anyway, pretty rose!! The stem is too thin for the size of the bloom, so it droops, but still keeps blooming as long as the stem doesn't break. It gets the fluorescence from the way it hangs.and the transmitted light vs direct light or diffuse light. The pic really doesn't do it justice. I have pics of Double Delight that glow, too. Learn & create something every day. Our Duck Pond The thread "Pool to Natural Pond Conversion" in Ponds and Water Gardening forum |
Name: Cal McGaugh Escondido, California (Zone 10b) EscondidoCal Feb 6, 2018 8:01 PM CST |
HemNorth said:Cal, thanks for your input about FRAGRANCE! To me, that is an absolute essential criterion. I also have Gertrude Jekyll and Abraham Darby, but now am alerted to the beautiful 'Intrigue' rose, and would like to add it to my small collection. Intrigue is amazing.....not only a great fragrance, but will produce 2 doz blooms on one stalk! And it's very disease resistant. Nice glossy green leaves. It was my Mom's favorite. I'll check out Fragrant Cloud if I get a vacancy in the garden. No room for now.  Learn & create something every day. Our Duck Pond The thread "Pool to Natural Pond Conversion" in Ponds and Water Gardening forum |
Toymr2mk2 Feb 11, 2018 7:50 AM CST |
| I am not a rose expert by any means. The description you have provided, to me, suggests an older tea rose. The weak stems especially as this is a characteristic common to most of them. What is the plant habit like? Do you have any pictures of the bush? Take a look at Rosette Delizy. This is a very similar rose. If still not convinced search the tea roses. I believe you will find it either there or maybe a floribunda rather than a hybrid tea. Good luck with your search! Here is a link to some info.... http://sherryocala.blogspot.co... And a pic off of her page:  Art |
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