Irises forum: New to Iris or is it Irises?

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Name: Amy Beth
Knoxville, TN (Zone 7a)
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amybeth6341
Feb 3, 2018 7:37 AM CST
I have so many questions.....

My aunt passed away in the fall of 2016. Her home was being sold so I had no choice but to dig up her beautiful iris in November. I brought them back to my house and immediately planted them. Here are my questions for today.....

Is there any way her beautiful purple iris could have changed to a different color (wine)? I dug from multiple spots in multiple beds but ALL of the iris that came up were wine/brown colored.
I thought I would give it another year since maybe they were recovering from shock! But now I need to move them again. I want to plant roses where the iris are now planted.
Second questions.....will it be devastating to the iris to move them before they bloom this spring? I'm thinking before they start growing for their show this year.
Thank You!

-amy
Name: Tom
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tveguy3
Feb 3, 2018 9:38 AM CST
Hi, and Welcome! to the iris forum. Irises don't change color. At times a seed will fall and grow into a new variety that may have a different color.

They should live if you move them before bloom, but it isn't the ideal time to do it. If you dig a large clump of soil with the rhizomes and replant them right away, they could still do OK and some might even bloom for you yet this year. The best time to transplant them is after they have bloomed. Smiling
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Name: Jerry
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Jpari
Feb 3, 2018 10:17 AM CST
Hi Amy, and welcome! Welcome! I am a relatively new grower, but, I have never heard of an iris changing color. Just a suggestion, is there any way you could see your way to postponing your transplanting to midsummer, which is the best time to transplant and divide iris, and then plant the roses in the fall? This would be the ideal in my humble opinion.
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Bonehead
Feb 3, 2018 10:25 AM CST
I call iris iris, no matter how many. Just sounds right to me. I think it is one of those optional things - like elk (I never call them elks).
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evelyninthegarden
Feb 3, 2018 12:19 PM CST
Amy ~ Welcome! to the Irises Forum!
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UndertheSun
Feb 3, 2018 1:27 PM CST
Welcome (to the addiction) Amy and Jerry! Welcome!
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BlueFlagFan
Feb 3, 2018 4:20 PM CST
Welcome! Amy!
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Dachsylady86
Feb 3, 2018 4:47 PM CST
tveguy3 said:Hi, and Welcome! to the iris forum. Irises don't change color. At times a seed will fall and grow into a new variety that may have a different color.

They should live if you move them before bloom, but it isn't the ideal time to do it. If you dig a large clump of soil with the rhizomes and replant them right away, they could still do OK and some might even bloom for you yet this year. The best time to transplant them is after they have bloomed. Smiling


Welcome to the forum!! I was also thinking it could be a seedling that was fertilized by a bee.
Name: Robin
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Totally_Amazing
Feb 3, 2018 5:00 PM CST
Welcome! Amy,

Is it possible that you aunt had several different irises in her garden? Maybe you have only seen the wine/brown ones because the others haven't bloomed yet.
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LizinElizabeth
Feb 3, 2018 5:41 PM CST
Or maybe a difference in the soil? More or less acidic.alkaline makes a difference in lots of flower colors, not experienced enough to know how much of a difference it can make with iris.
If you decide to move them before flowering you might want to provide additional shade for a few weeks while they adjust to their new home. I have a bunch of stackable deck chairs that do double duty as movable temporary shade for when I've moved perennials in less than optimum seasons. Used that method last year with an iris I received in a spring plant swap, the bud that was on the plant when I got it actually opened and it seemed to suffer no transplant shock. I use the chairs whenever I plant peonies in the spring as well.
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
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grannysgarden
Feb 4, 2018 4:12 AM CST
Hi Amy Beth. Good comments above. Smiling Good questions too. I often get asked about irises changing colors. An iris may show lighter shading or darker shading even if the soil and/or growing conditions are completely different but the color, including beard color, does not change significantly. Often a bee pod will form, split open and seeds will be sewn among a named variety. No bearded iris seed will grow and bloom true to the parent plant. (plants true to the parent are created by division. Taking an increase from the parent rhizome) A really vigorous seedling will often grow among the parent plant and in a few short years will crowd out the parent plant completely. I have had many people tell me that if i plant a yellow near a white all of my blooms will change to one or the other color. That is just telling me which iris is the more vigorous grower and will crowd out the other iris. Smiling

On the best time to transplant I find that irises, on the whole, are very forgiving. If not transplanted in very hot, dry weather or very cold frozen weather they will adjust to their new home. Like Tom said above, if you can lift a clump with most of the soil attached they have a better chance of suffering less shock when transplanted and will bloom during the proper time. Otherwise you may miss a spring bloom but the irises should still live and thrive and bloom the next year. The best time to transplant is a few weeks after spring bloom when they go dormant. That is June here in zone 7A. Smiling After moving the irises, whether singly or in clumps, it would be a good idea to water them at least once a week if weather conditions are dry. After a few weeks, unless you are in drought conditions, they should be ok.

irises, i think, is plural. Maybe i better check on that. Hilarious!

Good luck, Amy, and welcome to the iris forum. Welcome! Smiling
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Australis
Feb 4, 2018 4:30 AM CST

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On the subject of Iris vs Irises....

Iris is the name of the genus. So you can say that you're new to Iris and be correct (you're new the genus). It is less commonly used as a plural as well (no doubt due to the fact that it ends in "s").

Irises is a common way of referring to multiple Iris plants, so you would also be correct to say that you're new to Irises!
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Name: Bonnie Sojourner
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grannysgarden
Feb 4, 2018 4:34 AM CST
Thank you, Joshua. Thumbs up Smiling
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Bonehead
Feb 5, 2018 9:46 AM CST
sounds like one of those either/or words. I'll stick to iris.
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janwax
Feb 5, 2018 10:49 AM CST
Welcome! Amy!
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Cuzz4short
Feb 6, 2018 6:07 AM CST
Dealing with this crew that iris will turn into many irises.

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