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Wyoming (Zone 4a)
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Ape_Goblin
Feb 4, 2018 8:06 AM CST
Does anybody know which plants prefer the crest of a berm vs. the bottom of a swale? I know that amaranth likes to grow right between two mounded rows of another crop, which makes sense, because it's tiny seeds really need 1-2 weeks of constant moisture to germinate properly. I wonder if this dichotomy could be useful to interplanting, reducing competition for specific root space and affecting relative crop height
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Feb 4, 2018 8:44 AM CST
Ape - I've seen diagrams in permaculture books about planning for root space but don't know how specific the information is.
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Wyoming (Zone 4a)
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Ape_Goblin
Feb 6, 2018 1:43 PM CST
I'm referring to annual plants for now. I want to grow an interplanted calorie garden, as much storable nutrient dense food in as little space as possible.
Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
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Shadegardener
Feb 6, 2018 2:40 PM CST
Daikon radish has a deep root system and whatever is left in the ground at the end of the season can decompose in place to improve the soil. If you start with decent soil, tomato roots can grow deep. Potatoes? if you continually mound the soil around them, they can go pretty deep. I grow mainly in pots so squash can grow deep. Peas not as deep. Beans - I don't grow so not familiar with how deep they grow. Peppers maybe not so deep. Of course it depends on what you like to eat. Your plan is to interplant rather than sow in straight rows?
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Feb 6, 2018 2:50 PM CST
Ape_Goblin said:Does anybody know which plants prefer the crest of a berm vs. the bottom of a swale?

It's a good question, but I bet that soil types, rainfall averages, temps are going to be important considerations...

For instance,
Most people expect to plant squash family on a hill... But at my house... Wouldn't work...

Sweet potatoes seem likely, but they wouldn't grow in WY...
Maybe Irish taters on top with jeruseleum artichokes in trough?
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Name: Cindy
Hobart, IN zone 5
aka CindyMzone5
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Shadegardener
Feb 6, 2018 5:09 PM CST
Since tomatoes like consistent moisture, would they do better in the bottom of the swale?
Only when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can't eat money. Cree proverb
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Feb 6, 2018 6:31 PM CST
I agree with Cindy. Moisture lovers in the trough, dry land types on the swale.
Porkpal

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