Site Talk forum: Moved to a new genus or name changes etc.

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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Feb 5, 2018 11:35 PM CST
Is there a way to notify people who have a plant in their list that it's had a name change/new genus etc. I tip my hat to you. The most recent example for me was to find Rosmarinus officinalis is now Salvia rosmarinus. I tip my hat to you.
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Australis
Feb 6, 2018 12:08 AM CST

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Feb 6, 2018 12:11 AM CST

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I don't know how much programming that would entail or even whether it can be done by means of programming. It can't be done by tree-mail for obvious reasons. In the example you cite, I would have had to send a tree-mail to each of the 65 people who have or want the plant when I edited the entry to show that R. officinalis is now a synonym.

As far as I know, all you can do is keep an eye on your plant list. These name changes occur quite frequently. If you see that a plant is missing, search for the missing plant. In this case, searching for R. officinalis would bring up the S. rosmarinus entry and let you know that R. officinalis is now a synonym. If you don't remember the name of the missing plant, check your list for unfamiliar names. When you find one, click on it and see what the synonyms are. One of them probably will sound familiar.
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Feb 6, 2018 2:00 AM CST

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It should be possible to do; the amount of work depends on how Dave's set up the system, so he's the best person to answer the question. It might be that it's difficult to implement currently or it might be an easy change.
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dave
Feb 6, 2018 7:05 AM CST

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Technically speaking, I can send a system message to a group of people containing whatever I want it to say. I can manually write a script that looks at the plant lists, builds a list of members who have a certain plant in their list, and then send that group a system message saying whatever I want said.

I'm not sure it's worth it to notify those people that the latin name of a plant in their list has changed. Maybe I'm undervaluing the importance of that kind of notification?
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sooby
Feb 6, 2018 7:13 AM CST
I don't do a plant list so I may be totally out to lunch here, but when the name changes in the database, does it also automatically change in someone's plant list? From zuzu's post I'm thinking not, but how difficult would that be to implement if that's not how it works? Then people would notice a different name in their list and then look it up to find the name they had has changed. Then there'd be no need for notifications.

Now I have to get used to rosemary being a salvia Rolling my eyes.
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dave
Feb 6, 2018 7:30 AM CST

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Yes, it does automatically change in your plant list, assuming your plant list entry is linked to the plant database entry.
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greene
Feb 6, 2018 8:28 AM CST
One thing I have learned since joining this site is that accepted names are not static. Folks who like to keep up with the most currently accepted names will most likely not need to be notified.

As for the recent change for Rosemary, Whistling I'm just happy to know that I was not having a 'senior moment'. I sure wish y'all could have seen me yelling at the laptop screen! "What?!! Since when is Rosemary a Salvia??!!"

I was pretty crazy for a quick minute. *Blush*
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Weedwhacker
Feb 6, 2018 8:32 AM CST
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought they were "losing it."

Maybe a notation could be made in the Database entry when a change like this is made?
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Feb 6, 2018 11:06 AM CST
Sighing! I tip my hat to you.
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purpleinopp
Feb 6, 2018 11:13 AM CST
What a superb idea! I would love to be notified! I use my plant list here at least once per week and there is no way to be otherwise notified by "the world" of plant name changes that I've found. That would be an amazing service!!

At least one would be aware of changes to their plants in their plant list on NGA. That would make it the 2nd most valuable plant-related resource to me, the first being the plant list itself.

PLEASE do this if practical from the back end!
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Name: Zuzu
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Feb 6, 2018 11:56 AM CST

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sooby said:I don't do a plant list so I may be totally out to lunch here, but when the name changes in the database, does it also automatically change in someone's plant list? From zuzu's post I'm thinking not, but how difficult would that be to implement if that's not how it works? Then people would notice a different name in their list and then look it up to find the name they had has changed. Then there'd be no need for notifications.

Now I have to get used to rosemary being a salvia Rolling my eyes.


Yes, it does change automatically. That's why I said you should keep an eye on your list and check for unfamiliar names. If you find one, click on it and read the synonyms. One of them probably will be the familiar name you know.

It's also a good idea to keep an eye on the Plant Database forum. Here's the thread that alerted us to the change in the Rosmarinus genus. It happened less than a month ago.

The thread "Salvia genus" in Plant Database forum

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