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North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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tx_flower_child
Feb 12, 2018 3:03 PM CST
I recently received this nice gift. I think I know what the 2 plants in it are, but would rather ask the experts.


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Guessing that the one on the left is an alocasia (sp). My initial reaction to the one on the right
is a 'bird's nest fern'. True or false?

As for the one on the right, I just noticed that it seems to have a 'cup' inside, sort of like some bromeliads have. If so, is that where I should water it and will it maybe produce a flower?

Here's a picture attempting to show what I'm talking about. Will try again if not clear enough.



Thanks for any info and advice.

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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Feb 12, 2018 3:54 PM CST
Yes, Alocasia and Birds Nest Fern. According to the "experts", you should not fill the Birds nest with water because it will cause rot. I have always watered mine by filling the cup and soaking the soil with no ill effects.
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tx_flower_child
Feb 12, 2018 4:19 PM CST
Will the Birds Nest Fern develop a bloom where the cup is?
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Feb 12, 2018 4:26 PM CST
I agree, your lovely gift plants look like these:
African Mask (Alocasia 'Polly')
Bird's Nest Fern (Asplenium nidus)

Ferns do not bloom so no, you won't see any flowers arise from the center.
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Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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DaisyI
Feb 12, 2018 6:40 PM CST
Its not really a cup but instead, the only growth point for the fern (Kind of like a palm - but not). Those little brown nubbies down there are new leaves. Eventually, it will get quite large and grow a "trunk".

Here are mine (formerly mine. I gave them away when I moved to Reno). Both are in 12 inch pots. The one full of 5-fingered ferns, one of my greenhouse "weeds", is like yours.
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I suspect the fern will outpace the Alocasia. My Alocasia grows a new leaf every 6 months. Smiling
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tx_flower_child
Feb 12, 2018 6:45 PM CST
Well I'd never seen a fern bloom, so that's no surprise. But what are those little 'nubs' in the 'cup'?
(You'll probably have to enlarge the picture to see what I mean.) Is that where new growth comes from?

I have (and have had) various ferns but never one of these. So it's totally new to me as to how it grows. Also, are the requirements basically the same as for other ferns? This looks like an indoor fern, unlike my others.
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tx_flower_child
Feb 12, 2018 6:54 PM CST
Thanks, Daisy. We cross posted.

Each plant is in it's own pot. They were just placed in the same basket and had moss tucked around them. I really am not too excited about having house plants. (I'm such an ingrate.) My house already has plenty of outdoor plants that are indoors for the winter.

I have to admit tho, that I've always admired both plants — but have always resisted them. Doesn't the Alocasia grow fairly large, assuming no abuse?
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Feb 12, 2018 7:10 PM CST
Some Alocasia do get really huge but 'Polly' is a small variety and probably won't get more than 2 feet tall at most. The Birds Nest Fern, over time can get quite large ... and wide! This is one I've had for about 8 years. It started out as a small plant in a 4 inch pot. It usually stays outside on the porch but it got hit by a cold snap a few weeks ago so I brought it indoors until the weather warmed up.
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tx_flower_child
Feb 12, 2018 9:55 PM CST
Nice one, Lin. I'll have to check out the details of both my plants in our plants database.

For now, I'm going to have to figure out where to put them. I sure hope they have similar indoor light requirements so I can keep them in the gift basket for awhile. At least they are in individual pots. Haven't pulled them out to see what size pots they're in. The moss, however, is the softest moss ever so I don't want to mess with the arrangement until I have to.

Appreciate the advice from you and Daisy.
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Feb 13, 2018 9:05 AM CST
They should both do well in the same type of light conditions; bright, indirect light but no direct sun.

Is the moss planted in a pot as well or just draped around the plants for decoration? Moss always adds a nice accent to container and dish gardens; it might be a type of Dicranum Moss https://garden.org/plants/sear...
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Feb 13, 2018 9:24 AM CST
The moss looks more like Lichen to me. Is Lichen ever really soft?
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Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Feb 13, 2018 11:42 AM CST
porkpal said:The moss looks more like Lichen to me. Is Lichen ever really soft?

I'm not sure if any Lichen is soft or if it's ever used in container or dish gardens but with my poor eyesight, it might very well be a type of Lichen. It just reminded me of moss; another for comparison would be Coral Moss (Riccardia chamedryfolia)? https://www.bing.com/images/se...

... it could even be some dyed, artificial decoration; many artificial plants and flowers look so real nowadays. Green Grin!
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tx_flower_child
Feb 13, 2018 1:09 PM CST
All I know about lichen is what I've seen growing here and there.

All I know about moss is 'pretty' and wish I could grow it as a ground cover.

All I know about the artificial plants is that some of them actually fool me.

Let me see if I can get a better picture. Ok. Moss is not attached but just mushed around the plants. Not ok is the picture I'm attaching. (The whitish part is not white.) Have to run but will try again later.

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Name: Laurie b
Western Washington (Zone 7b)
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lauriebasler
Feb 13, 2018 1:31 PM CST
I love both these plants so much. I love plants for present so much. @Carter, is a great lover of birds nest ferns, and so skilled at passing his knowledge along.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Feb 13, 2018 1:36 PM CST
The "moss" looks like a material which my brother used to create trees around his model railroad (about40 years ago). I think I remember being told that it was the dried form of some plant - not helpful, I know.
Porkpal
Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Feb 13, 2018 1:46 PM CST
It sure looks like Lichen, maybe Cladonia rangiferina, commonly called Reindeer Moss: http://www.brightgreen.co.uk/g...

or maybe Letharia vulpina, commonly called Wolf Moss: http://www.lichen.com/bigpix/L...
More images here: http://www.waysofenlichenment....
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North Central TX (Zone 8a)
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tx_flower_child
Feb 13, 2018 7:06 PM CST
Good golly! Each one looks like it to my untrained eyes. Except for the last link. But the next to last picture on that last link just blew my mind! I've never seen a tree so totally covered with lichen. Maybe I just don't get around much anymore.

I took a few more pictures but they're just more confusing. Maybe I'll ask who the florist was, assuming that there was only one florist. (The gift basket came from a fundraiser.) For now, I've got an errand to run. 🏃‍♀️

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