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Name: Robert
East Central Alabama z8
SilkKnoll
Feb 12, 2018 5:21 PM CST
This is a beautiful plant that I would love to find, but I believe it is Graptoveria 'Doughlas Huth' rather than Graptosedum 'Ghosty.'
I guess, I have to post somewhere else about Ghosty being a yellowish Graptosedum rather than a cultivar of G. paraguayense.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Feb 13, 2018 12:08 AM CST
Hi Robert.
Maybe you can help me understand how to tell the difference? I went by the name on the tag that came with the plant.
I really don't know very much about the tender succulents.
Name: Robert
East Central Alabama z8
SilkKnoll
Feb 15, 2018 8:18 PM CST
Goodness! That's a challenge! Maybe though years of pouring over galleries of these species? But I suppose there are some thing to look for. Do you have Graptopetalum pentandrum superbum? Owning that unique and distinguished plant is an education! It has a powdered surface, complex hues and spectacular efflorescences. I believe Douglas Huth and Huth's Pink, as well as several other extraordinary multicolored Graptoverias (interspecific hybrids of Graptopetalum and Echeveria). I'd love to show you some of them.

In addition to Douglas Huth, there is a "Huth's Pink," and, to be honest (without ever having found or grown one myself), I find them difficult to tell apart. Here is the picture that your plant brought to mind, and I can show you many others that exhibit the sort of pink bruising your plant displays. (Please click to enlarge each photo; the thumbnails don't do them justice.)
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I don't know if I can continue to post photos in one message, but I'll try. Here's another view of Huth's Pink (the plant on top is different).
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Here is a photo I have of Ghosty. I tried to buy it together with Douglas Huth and Albert Baynes, but when the seller realized what she had in the box of rosettes she had posted (in a facebook group), she stopped replying to me and then blocked me to avoid selling them for the price she had listed!
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Here's a pic of Albert Baynes, just for fun:
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And this is another Graptoveria I would love to find named superbum 'Cotton Candy.'
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As a Grand Finale, here is Graptophytum 'Mora.'
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I do hope all these photos come through. If they do, please let me know what you think. If you like, we can chat further about these beauties.

Robert
Name: Robert
East Central Alabama z8
SilkKnoll
Feb 15, 2018 8:28 PM CST
Oh, I almost forgot to answer your question! Ghosty, coming from paraguayense is a simpler rosette. It's smaller, has fewer layers of leaves, and the leaves tend to be held more loosely. Douglas Huth may have some paraguayense in it, shown by the angular outline of the leaves, similar to Graptoveria 'Debbie.' But the coloration reflects pentandrum, with the random appearance of richer colors bleeding through. G. pentandrum is more fleshy, tighter and has many more neatly layered leaves to its rosettes.
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Its colors can range from tan to soft lavender to rose pink.

Name: Robert
East Central Alabama z8
SilkKnoll
Feb 15, 2018 8:32 PM CST
I just discovered this note about 'Douglas Huth' on a French site, which explains some of the questions I raised:

"Leaf colour changes a lot when either grown in full sun – pinkish - or in shade – bluish - which explains the two synonyms 'Dr. Huth's Pink' and 'Dr. Huth's Blue'."
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Feb 16, 2018 1:01 AM CST
Very interesting. And lovely photos Robert.
I will be visiting the nursery that has the plant I took the photo of in the next month or two. I will take more photos and we will see what we come up with.
Name: Robert
East Central Alabama z8
SilkKnoll
Feb 17, 2018 11:35 AM CST
Do you know the site crassulaceae.ch? They have a hard time keeping up with new cultivars, but they have authoritative information on the majority of species, hybrids and cultivars now in cultivation.

If your nursery is likely to have a interesting Graptopetalum hybrids and other interesting succulents, please keep my posted! Do you think they might ship? If not, maybe I can entice you with some of my succulent plants into a collaboration!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
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valleylynn
Feb 17, 2018 3:23 PM CST
Perennial Obsessions does do online sales, but does not list the tender succulents on their website. But you can contact her for information on what she might have available. She sometimes has some real treasures that might be hard to find.
https://perennialobsessions.co...

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