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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
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ge1836
Feb 14, 2018 10:35 AM CST
Someone gave me poppy seeds from the shop atMonet's Garden.
Three types of poppy seeds
Orientals ,these have never been successful for me as seed starting
Rhoaes which is my question. I have started "bread and Butter " poppies by sowing the seeds in late fall, never had a problem. THE question, can I sow the Rhoaes the same way? broadcast and let them spend time in the cold befor germinating ?
Name: Marilyn
CT (Zone 5b)
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RobinD
Feb 14, 2018 3:45 PM CST
Yes....I think all poppies like cold soil & light to germinate......they don't want to be moved once they've germinated....I would broadcast the seed at the beginning of April & see what happens.....
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Feb 14, 2018 4:12 PM CST
Thanks. I need to wait until the last of March as we have snow cover here now.
I realize some people broadcast seeds on snow but I need some plant sightings so I don't miss the target.
Name: Marilyn
CT (Zone 5b)
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RobinD
Feb 15, 2018 9:47 AM CST
I've never broadcast on snow either....I have about 6 pkgs of poppy seeds to plant in April....some are Calif. poppies....they are very easy, & reseed themselves as well.....
Name: Meredith
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Meredith79
Feb 24, 2018 6:19 AM CST
I don't usually have a lot of luck with poppies here. I have tried lots of methods. I am thinking about trying sowing the seeds in a bottle with the bottom cut off and slightly buried. I had tried it with milk jugs one year but they didn't stay in place.
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Feb 24, 2018 7:15 AM CST
I had luck with milk bottles.
Bottoms cut out and pushed two long stakes at angles thru the top bottle opening.
Sowing annual poppies

In January when there is a good day.
Scrape away any leaves or mulch to make a bare spot..
Seeds sown on mulch or anything but the ground ,wont germinate.
Sprinkle the seeds and press into the ground.

I have sown them and covered with screen held down with rocks.This protectes the seeds from birds or washing away with rain.



I also made "bottle greenhouses"



Cut the bottoms off of plastic milk bottles and place the bottle over the sown seeds.I put 2 plant supports into the green house so it wouldnt blow away.


These are the new poppies. DONT WEED THEM OUT.I have done that more times than I want to admit.
Also poppies dont need to be sown this thick. This picture was taken in March but we had a weird spring.
In April check your sites for germination. Dont be discouraged if you dont see anything,I have seen poppies emerge in late May.
Name: Marilyn
CT (Zone 5b)
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RobinD
Feb 24, 2018 8:07 AM CST
Good luck, Meredith! Jo, great tips.....I may try the greenhouse bottles....
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Feb 24, 2018 8:28 AM CST
I had photos included with the document but they didn't paste.
Name: Meredith
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Meredith79
Feb 24, 2018 12:07 PM CST
So last spring sometime in March when there was only a small amount of snow left I tried covering the sown seed with burlap, it was in my raised bed with cedar sides, sandy loam that's heavily amended with compost, which is set up with mist spraying drip irrigation sprinklers. So I thought if they don't grow here the seed must be bad.. Then I noticed green growing under the burlap and lo and behold the neighboring raspberries had sent runners into that bed! So I started ripping them out hoping the seeds may still germinate but I ended up having to rip roots out everywhere and it was a lost cause. It seems every year something ruins my good intentions Shrug!
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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Meredith79
Feb 24, 2018 12:14 PM CST
The one time I had more than one Poppy germinate was in 2010. I think the only thing that made it successful was the fact that I sprinkled 2 very full bags I had gotten free from my order with Cheap Seeds. They were Labeled as Corn Poppies but some had black spots inside so I think it was a mixture of different types of red annuals.
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Feb 24, 2018 12:29 PM CST
It looks like you did everything right except the burlap which might retard sunlite.
I buy a roll of "replacement screen door screen" and use that to cover where seeds have sown.
Gardening is a frustrating business sometimes.
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Feb 24, 2018 12:33 PM CST
Meridith, I love the poppies, I think they might be rhoeas.
I like the somnifareums and scatter seeds in January when snow melts for awhile.

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Name: Marilyn
CT (Zone 5b)
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RobinD
Feb 24, 2018 2:43 PM CST
Poppy seeds need light to germinate......they usually come up fine for me, if I don't mistake them for weeds!
Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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Meredith79
Feb 25, 2018 6:43 AM CST
True about the burlap blocking light, I was using it more to keep the seeds from being eaten, blown away by wind or splattered away during a hard rain. I was planning on pulling the burlap up for them to germinate, the Raspberries started growing quite early.
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Feb 25, 2018 7:11 AM CST
Meredith, I wish you luck and keep trying to grow the annual poppies. I leave the seedpods in some areas and mother nature does the rest.
Here are the double poppies from this year. I sowed them a few weeks ago.
The screening lets the rain go thru and birds don't go near it.I have pinned this down but have used small rocks in the past.
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Name: Meredith
New Hampshire (Zone 5b)
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Meredith79
Feb 25, 2018 7:46 AM CST
Yes your pictures of Poppies always make me wish I could get them to grow here!
Name: Marilyn
CT (Zone 5b)
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RobinD
Feb 25, 2018 2:00 PM CST
Good tip, Jo! I like the idea of screening....Nicki woke me at 1:30 this morning & when I went to the window, there was a furry critter near the bird feeder....too dark to see what it was, but there's always something after the seeds!
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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ge1836
Feb 25, 2018 3:31 PM CST
Marilyn, maybe a skunk or opossum.
Name: Marilyn
CT (Zone 5b)
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RobinD
Feb 26, 2018 8:05 AM CST
Yes, I'm thinking possum, since one apparently lives under my porch.....will have to get rid of it soon!
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Avid Green Pages Reviewer Lilies
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ge1836
May 28, 2018 7:36 AM CST
They never germinated. Ahhhh wel.

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