Roses forum: get rid of bindweeds and Bermuda grass among my rose bushes

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tantefrancine
Feb 26, 2018 8:23 PM CST
How can I get rid of bindweeds and Bermuda grass among my rose bushes without killing the roses? I have been fighting them for years and so far have little success.

I have been planting my roses in 24 x 24 inches holes. I have clay in my garden. Is there an easier way to plant roses that make them happy?

What are the best amended soil to put into the hole to make them happy? I know most roses need 6 hours of sun. I also know that roses do not like to have wet feet for a long time, so I have to make sure that drainage of the holes are important.

Can I just mix 1/3 clay, 1/3 compost, and 1/3 packaged garden soil? I read somewhere that garden soil with fertilizer are not good to plant new roses. Is that true?

When can I fertilize the 'just planted' roses?

Thank you in advance for any tips.
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porkpal
Feb 26, 2018 9:39 PM CST
Your questions would probably get more attention if you started a new thread - maybe titled Rose Questions or some such.
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Steve812
Feb 27, 2018 9:34 AM CST
I'm not completely sure if there is a way that is easy, effective, and safe for the roses. Herbicide is NOT the answer. Some always gets on the roses and they are never the same. I find that pulling up bindweed three or four times a season for three to five seasons straight does slow it down quite a lot. One might consider using Ornamec on grasses. And deep edging to keep out encroaching lawns.
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Calif_Sue
Feb 27, 2018 10:25 AM CST

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Split off the new question into it's own thread.
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gemini_sage
Mar 1, 2018 7:34 AM CST
Bindweed is a problem in some parts of my garden too. I haven't found herbicides effective at all in dealing with it, and best to keep those away from your roses anyway. As Steve mentioned, keeping it pulled and weakening the roots by doing so, does seem to be what works best for me. Some sources say to pull sprouts every 2 weeks for 2 or 3 years to get it under control. Digging is ineffective because the roots are brittle and break into pieces that just grow into new plants.

I have a part of the garden where some septic and water line work was done a few years ago leaving the clay subsoil on top and the topsoil buried deep. I've been combining various forms of compost with the clay and top dressing with thick mulch and it has been gradually improving. The roses there seem quite happy.

With newly planted roses I wait until they've leafed out well before applying fertilizer.
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tantefrancine
Mar 2, 2018 6:04 PM CST
Thank you for all the suggestions. I have done some of the advice, and I will do Steve's and gemini_sage suggestions, starting this year--and hope to become an end of taurus-sage---Like the roses, I do not like herbicide either.
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RpR
Mar 9, 2018 12:21 PM CST
I went from little bindweed to massive amounts in a year.
I sprayed, bend over and hold jug inches from plant, and pulled , making sure ground was wet while pulling, and now I am back to where it is really no longer a problem.
I have more problem with feral morning glories, I planted them ten years ago, now that bind weed.
I only pull the morning glories but the darn things just will not go away.
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