Peonies forum: Peonies That Perform Well in Partial Shade

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Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Feb 28, 2018 9:22 PM CST
I know that most herbaceous peonies prefer full sun and blooming is significantly reduced if grown in partial shade. This is particularly true with the Lactifloras. But i wonder if there are hybrids out there that grow and bloom well in partial shade (morning sun/afternoon shade, vice versa, or filtered sunlight)? I would love to find out from everyone what herbaceous peonies do well in partial shade in your garden.

So far these are the only 3 that have done well in partial shade for me:

Red Charm Morning sun/afternoon shade exposure
Carina Morning sun/ afternoon shade
Shirley Temple Morning shade/afternoon sun

Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
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LizinElizabeth
Feb 28, 2018 10:39 PM CST
I've always heard that dark colored peonies do better with afternoon shade. I have a couple of NOIDs in some shade that are doing well, both dark, no named varieties that I know of. I've had some in part shade but have moved most since they didn't do well.
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Mar 1, 2018 7:42 AM CST
I'm curious if Itohs can tolerate more shade since tree peonies seem to tolerate some shade. I haven't been brave enough to try it since they're pricey.
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Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Mar 1, 2018 8:06 AM CST
Thanks, Liz for that info. There is one dark peony, Philippe Rivoire that I have currently in full sun that is not doing well. I may move him to a semi shade location.

I have not tried itohs for shade, Neal but I do have a Bartzella growing under a peach tree that is doing quite well. Though it does not get much shade until the peach tree leafs out and even then it does get afternoon sun from 1PM on.
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Mar 1, 2018 9:40 AM CST
My Bartzella is on the north-east side of the house and doesn't get much morning sun because of a large maple that is about 50' away from it. It gets full sun from late morning till mid to late afternoon, and it seems very happy.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Mar 1, 2018 10:29 AM CST
The species peony obovata is supposed to grow with less light.
I just ordered seeds from the NARGS seed exchange. It will be years before I know how they grow !
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Mar 1, 2018 12:43 PM CST
Intersting question...

I have not really paid much attention because 20 years ago I built my house in the middle of a corn field. The only shade was close to the north side of the house. Please note that I do not have any peonies planted in this area:)

But now I have some trees. Actually, some 20 year old trees.

I have a general idea of the shady spots, but how do you measure the amount of sunshine for a given garden? Do I have to get my notebook and stopwatch? What happens when I take a nap?

Also, it is clear that that changes during the year. Not my nap, the sun.

And, of course, the big question... is it partly sunny or partly shady?
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
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kousa
Mar 1, 2018 1:05 PM CST
Frank, I am interested in everything, any details that you can provide from your general observations per individual case. They don't have to be precise like number of hours exposed per day. For example, my Red Charm is grown in a border north of my house. It gets morning sun until the house starts to shade it which is about 11AM. In spite of this shading, it continues to perform very well for me. If you can give me individual case like this, I would appreciate any details that you can provide. As long as they are not in full sun all the time like from 10AM to 5PM, then they are all good candidates for this thread purpose.
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Mar 1, 2018 1:27 PM CST
I saw a post somewhere - 2 Bartzella in shade and full sun - a huge difference! Like 3 flowers and many. I try to plant peonies in sunny locations but some have more shade than I would prefer. It will take a few years for my peonies to get established so I can answer your question, Karen, not very soon Smiling
Name: Liz Best
Elizabeth Colorado (Zone 4b)
Peonies Enjoys or suffers cold winters Winter Sowing Region: Colorado Plant and/or Seed Trader Irises
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LizinElizabeth
Mar 1, 2018 1:39 PM CST
I had Singing in the Rain in dry shade and another in sun, definite difference. Shaded one was tall and leggy, few blooms
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Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan

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frankrichards16
Mar 1, 2018 3:10 PM CST
Intersting question...

I have not really paid much attention because 20 years ago I built my house in the middle of a corn field. The only shade was close to the north side of the house. Please note that I do not have any peonies planted in this area:)

But now I have some trees. Actually, some 20 year old trees.

I have a general idea of the shady spots, but how do you measure the amount of sunshine for a given garden? Do I have to get my notebook and stopwatch? What happens when I take a nap?

Also, it is clear that that changes during the year. Not my nap, the sun.

And, of course, the big question... is it partly sunny or partly shady?

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