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Name: Meri Taylor
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mnmat
Mar 2, 2018 9:34 AM CST
Burpee.com says that Butterfly Weed, (Asclepias Tuberosa) "butterfly weed is not the same as milkweed as it does not provide food for monarch butterfly larvae" but The Monarch caterpillar stripped my one and only Butterfly Weed plant which then promptly died.

Was that a one time thing and the caterpillars were hungry enough to eat what ever they could find? I have a million (slight exaggeration) Monarchs in the area every year and I want to plant lots of food for them.

Should I forego the Butterfly Weed seeds I already have and look for Milkweed seeds?
Meri
NJ (Zone 7a)
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Invaded
Mar 2, 2018 6:07 PM CST
According to the Ladybird Johnson Wildflower Center it is a larval host for monarch butterflies. https://www.wildflower.org/pla...
Name: Jenn
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Kalix
Mar 11, 2018 7:47 PM CST
My tuberosa reseeds every year and is often covered in monarch cats. I'm not sure why that site says otherwise.
Name: Maggie
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Faerygardener
Mar 11, 2018 8:18 PM CST
Asclepias tuberosa is a host plant but it doesn't contain as much of the poison they like as other host plants, so may not be the first choice of butterflies but they will use it. I think it's the best looking of the milkweeds, so I often grow it.
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Name: Meri Taylor
SD (Zone 4b)
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mnmat
Mar 27, 2018 4:21 PM CST
Maggie I agree with you the Butterfly Weed is the best looking
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Name: Meredith
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memays
Apr 8, 2018 6:44 PM CST
There are numerous reports of Monarchs using asclepias tuberosa for Monarchs here in Georgia.
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 8, 2018 8:32 PM CST
I don't know why Burpee is saying that. It's hogwash! Asclepias tuberosa IS milkweed & monarch larvae do just dandy on it.
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Name: UrbanWild
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UrbanWild
Aug 2, 2018 6:28 PM CST
I currently grow common milkweed, swamp milkweed, & butterflyweed. All are used by adults and larvae.
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UrbanWild
Aug 13, 2018 7:10 PM CST
Hey Burpee!

Here are two monarch caterpillars living on Asclepias tuberosa (butterflyweed). The pics were taken today.

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Where is the mic drop smiley? nodding

BTW, I also have swamp milkweed and common milkweed starting about 30-35 feet away from this spot.

Oh, and butterflyweed is a true milkweed. Kudos to their copy writer. They couldn't be more completely wrong. Hmmm...I wonder if they are hiring? nodding


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Name: Rj
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crawgarden
Aug 13, 2018 8:20 PM CST
My Garden contains 4 varieties of Milkweed: Common Milkweed (Asclepias syriaca), Butterflyweed (Asclepias tuberosa), Swamp Milkweed (Asclepias incarnata), Whorled milkweed (Asclepias verticillata). The only ones I have seen cats on is the Common Milkweed, occasionally the Swamp Milkweed! Never on the Butterflyweed or Whorled
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UrbanWild
Aug 14, 2018 6:30 AM CST
I get them on all speces I grow. I have also commonly seen them on those species in the field. Are yours planted close? I have it spaced out all over the yard. I now have seeds for whorled. That is my next attempt...just gotta find space. Whistling
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UrbanWild
Aug 15, 2018 8:49 AM CST
Oddly enough, I currently have no apparent larvae on swamp or common milkweeds...just A. tuberosa. I do have a good many female monarchs around so I may have missed eggs. Here's another cat on A. tuberosa.

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flaflwrgrl
Aug 15, 2018 11:20 AM CST
I have 2 A. tuberosa (that I know of) & no eggs or cats on either. Haven't seen a single monarch this year.
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Aug 17, 2018 6:29 AM CST
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I have dozens of cats on my A. Tuberosa and have had all season long
also on the A. incarnata that is about eaten bare
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Name: UrbanWild
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UrbanWild
Aug 17, 2018 10:27 AM CST
And a sign that monarch caterpillars are clearly processing A. tuberosa... This was where the last pic in post above was taken...


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molanic
Aug 17, 2018 10:51 AM CST
I had A. tuberosa for a couple of years before I added A. incarnata, A. syriaca, and then A. speciosa. I only ever found eggs or cats on the A. tuberosa before I had the other ones available and the monarchs only laid on it early in the season when it had new tender growth or when it was just seedlings. I still have all those milkweeds, but haven't seen any activity on A. tuberosa ever again. Although to be fair, I stopped checking it regularly years ago when I realized they didn't want to use it. Maybe is a regional thing or has to do with the health of the plant or planting location also. Mine were usually quite large and healthy looking but the leaves did seem a lot tougher on mature plants than those on the other milkweeds. It is still an excellent nectar plant and good to have for diversity.

Not sure what Burpee was doing, maybe they goofed up the text with butterfly bush (buddleia).
Name: Meri Taylor
SD (Zone 4b)
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mnmat
Aug 25, 2018 11:50 AM CST
I went ahead and planted 3 A. tuberosa but they were seedlings so I don't expect anything productive for a couple years. I have a 12 x 25' plot that is all volunteer wildflowers so I think next year I'll plant the other milkweeds in there and hope for the best!
Meri
Name: UrbanWild
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UrbanWild
Aug 25, 2018 12:13 PM CST
I recently spoke to a rearer who says they regularly cut back milkweeds by a third to a half in order to get more tender leaves. I forgot to ask if they did this more than once in a plant.
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tx_flower_child
Aug 25, 2018 12:15 PM CST
Granted that the only language I know is English — maybe a little Spanglish, a phrase or 2 in French, and some exclamations in Yiddish or German — but if Asclepias Tuberosa is not a milkweed why else would it be named Asclepias?

Sadly I haven't seen any Monarchs this summer. Lot of birds. Lot of bees. But just an occasional butterfly.
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LindaTX8
Aug 25, 2018 12:48 PM CST
I think that Monarchs and Queens have their preferences. IMHO, often they'd prefer whatever species they were raised on if they get a choice. I've tried A. Tuberosa a few times, but so far they don't survive very long. Here they usually like to use Antelope Horn, Texas Milkweed or Tropical Milkweed.
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