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Name: Manut
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ladynus
Mar 2, 2018 11:29 AM CST
Hello All

I am very new to this community and I really need help.
My new sprung rose apple plants are being attacked by an invisible creature (if it's a creature).

Please see the photos, I need your expertise to know what's eating it and also how to get rid of it naturally if possible.

I would really appreciate it!

-Manut

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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 2, 2018 11:52 AM CST
Welcome!

That's not insect damage but rather, mechanical damage. Do you have a helpful kitty?
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Name: Manut
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ladynus
Mar 2, 2018 11:59 AM CST
Hi DaisyI

Thank you for a quick reply. But no I don't own any pets :(
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Mar 2, 2018 12:32 PM CST
I agree it looks mechanical, and a cat was also my first thought. If it is being eaten, the diner seems to have big teeth!
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Name: Manut
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ladynus
Mar 2, 2018 12:45 PM CST
So the tear started small first and then it spread bigger.
Please see illustration for better understanding.

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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 2, 2018 1:06 PM CST
Welcome! I'm not familiar with the plant but a couple of questions that might help. Are the plants usually located indoors, or outdoors, or in a greenhouse, or...? Also why do they have what looks like plastic film over the pots?
Name: Manut
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ladynus
Mar 2, 2018 1:13 PM CST
Hi Sooby

I started the plant outdoor but it is getting too cold these past few weeks so I moved it indoor next to the bathroom glass window to get sunshine.

The tear started since it was outside and still spreading while being indoor.

The plant species is from Thailand it lives in humid weather. That's why I put plastic film over the pot to keep the moist, not really sure it will help imitate the humidity.

Thank you everyone for trying to help me.
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BigBill
Mar 2, 2018 2:40 PM CST
This is really perplexing. For it to be a critter leaving marks like that, maybe we need to think bigger!? Squirrel, chipmunk, mouse of some type and then having chewed along the edge, additional movement of the leaf due to breezes or transport could have opened up the tear even more.
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Frillylily
Mar 2, 2018 2:45 PM CST
maybe a caterpillar of some type. They go down onto the soil when not feeding. They leave behind tiny specks of black (poo) on the leaves, like black pepper.
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sooby
Mar 2, 2018 2:49 PM CST
It's a Syzygium? When you say you started it, is that from seed or cutting? I'm assuming cutting, so it's not likely there was a small tear that is only expanding because the leaves are growing? I don't think the plastic will help if it needs humidity around the leaves.
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Frillylily
Mar 2, 2018 2:55 PM CST
Misting it w a fine spray a couple times a day is best for humidity. I don't know that the plastic is a good idea,? it may harbor mold, fungus ect. Shrug! I just don't know about that, but I don't think it will do anything to keep the leaves moist.
Name: Will Creed
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WillC
Mar 2, 2018 3:26 PM CST
It may be a leaf deformity caused by something involving the roots or in the environment at the time the affected leaves were just emerging. Keeping plastic over the soil will not provide the humidity that the plant may or may not need. The plastic may be keeping oxygen out of the soil and it may also be affecting tender new leaf shoots when they emerge. I suggest you remove it from the soil.

I am not familiar with that plant and I am not sure of what is causing the problem, but I wanted you to consider this alternative, particularly if you are not seeing any insects.
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Name: Manut
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ladynus
Mar 2, 2018 3:42 PM CST
Yes the plant is a kind of Syzygium. I planted them from seeds.

Thank you for your suggestions, I have removed the plastic over the soil.
I don't see any creature, nor the pepper-like droppings.

Question, if it's not animal that's eating the plant, is it possible that the cold weather can damage the leaves?

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Name: Sue
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sooby
Mar 2, 2018 3:54 PM CST
I'm not sure that it looks like cold damage, but if they are grown from seed any small damage will expand as the leaves expand. As Will said, it could be something environmental that happened just as the new leaves were expanding, in one of the pictures the leaves all look damaged in more or less the same place. Did it get windy, rain heavily, hail? An injury to a leaf will not resolve and disappear. I don't think I would be too concerned about them at this point but if you see more damage on other leaves, do post more pictures.
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 2, 2018 4:59 PM CST
It looks like the damage caused when leaves can't "unfurl" properly due to lack of humidity. But that is a new leaf thing and those look like the older leaves. Is any damage happening to the new leaves?
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Name: Will Creed
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WillC
Mar 2, 2018 6:05 PM CST
Watch the condition of the new leaves that come in as they are the indicators of how it is doing most recently. Previously damaged leaves will remain that way.
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Name: Manut
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ladynus
Mar 2, 2018 6:18 PM CST
With you guys' help, I think the mystery is starting to get unfolded.
The plants are not being disturbed by wind, or hail, or rain.

The new leaves are a little damaged and the damage expands as the leave grows.

-Lack of humidity might be the cause. I will try to spray the leaves every day from now on.

I will watch the progress more and update you guys.

Here are more close-up photos of the damages; both on new leaves and old leaves.


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Name: Will Creed
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WillC
Mar 2, 2018 6:22 PM CST
I'm bowing out here. I simply am not familiar enough with this plant species to be able to help much. Confused
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 2, 2018 6:23 PM CST
Misting won't increase humidity - that will just ruin your furniture. Take the plastic wrap off the pots (that in itself will raise humidity) and put them on trays of pebbles with water in the tray (not high enough to reach the bottom of the plant).
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and proclaiming...."WOW What a Ride!!" -Mark Frost

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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 2, 2018 6:24 PM CST
WillC said:I'm bowing out here. I simply am not familiar enough with this plant species to be able to help much. Confused


Have we even figured out what it is?
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