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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt Sacramento California (Zone 9b)              HamiltonSquare Mar 4, 2018 12:25 AM CST |
Planning to purchase what is being sold as xMangave 'Pineapple Express' from UCD Arboretum and that name is all I can find reference for out on the web. The database here has it as Manfreda 'Pineapple Express' and I'm guessing these are one and the same. Searching this site for Mangave and Manfreda also brings confusing results at least to me? Perhaps because of the common names? I see confusion has come up before but Zuzu's thread from last year is gone. Can of worms I'm sure but any help on this particular plant would great.  Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California. |
Name: Baja Baja California (Zone 11b)          |
| Manfreda = genus of North American plants related to agaves, often with purplish spots (this genus has been absorbed into Agave in the current Catalogue of Life) Note our database is a bit mixed up since some Manfredas have been renamed Agave but others have not... I will try to get this sorted out on the Plant Database forum. xMangave = hybrid between Manfreda and Agave (an outdated name, at least for now, but much more informative than what would otherwise be Agave x) "Pineapple Express" = hybrid between two named xMangaves (Bloodspot and Jaguar) which probably contains DNA from two different agaves and two different Manfredas. Cool plant! https://www.plantdelights.com/... |
Name: Baja Baja California (Zone 11b) |
| Here is the entry to use.... Mangave (Agave 'Pineapple Express') |
Name: Thijs van Soest Mesa, AZ (Zone 9b)        mcvansoest Mar 4, 2018 3:26 PM CST |
| Would it not have to be Agave sp. or Agave hybrid 'Pineapple Express'? |
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt Sacramento California (Zone 9b) HamiltonSquare Mar 4, 2018 3:52 PM CST |
| Yes. Thanks. I was up till the wee hours trying to sort it out. Not. UCD Arboretum usually has some interesting plant for sale. I wish they would lead the way with the latest info and names no matter how difficult. In the mean time ill try and keep up.... Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California. |
Name: Baja Baja California (Zone 11b) |
| Thank you for the question. It led to a bit of housecleaning in the database, which hopefully will be more up to date and correct, thanks to some work behind the scenes by Zuzu. The former xMangaves will retain Mangave as a common name, but be categorized under the scientific name Agave "Hybrid". More info about the consequences of the genus merger here (some non-obvious changes) https://garden.org/thread/view... and I even wrote a little comment about Agave asperrima to keep it separate from Agave scabra, another potential point of confusion after the merger. Century Plant (Agave asperrima) |
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt Sacramento California (Zone 9b) HamiltonSquare Mar 4, 2018 6:24 PM CST |
| Wow! Now it all makes sense. Mad about Mangave® had a whole new meaning for me last night! Lol Thank you both. @Zuzu Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California. |
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