Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: Just arrived Echeveria or Graptoveria?

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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 5, 2018 8:14 PM CST
Purchased from a sites pretty picture labeled 'Silver Star' and I see two 'Silver Star' entries on this site. To me they look the same. I just assumed my purchases would come with labels but they did not and the invoice was just as unhelpful. The web seems heavily weighted to no Echeveria version. Here are all three. I tip my hat to you.

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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Mar 5, 2018 8:39 PM CST

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I think it should be a Graptoveria... Graptopetalum filiferum x Echeveria agavoides "Multifida" is the parentage listed on this page.

http://www.crassulaceae.ch/de/...

@Zuzu , can you help us resolve this issue? I think we need to merge the Echeveria into the XGraptoveria entry for the same named plant. I submitted a data update for the Graptoveria which hopefully will fill out some details.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Mar 5, 2018 8:54 PM CST

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Yes, I'll do that. I'll have to move the data to the other plant first. The merge tool moves photos, comments, and owner info to the entry with the lowest plant ID number, but it doesn't move plant data and names.
Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Mar 5, 2018 8:56 PM CST

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Oh, never mind. I just found your proposal. Perfect! I'll merge them right away.
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Baja_Costero
Mar 5, 2018 9:12 PM CST

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Thank you!

Now that I look more carefully, I think the first image that Leslieray found, by 4susiesjoy, may actually be one of the parents of this hybrid, Graptopetalum filiferum... compare these two plants. The hybrid in the other two pictures above seems to have fewer, wider leaves (which would make sense given the parentage).



I'm going to have to look at more images to be sure... in the meantime, @4susiesjoy , do you have any more information about the plant in your picture?
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Name: Susie
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4susiesjoy
Mar 6, 2018 3:41 PM CST
@Baja_Costero, Sorry but I don't. That was the name on the plant that I ordered on Etsy and some of the venders are okay but I'm not sure they all are. I lost it the first winter after I got it. I sure did like it and have looked for it since but haven't seen it for sale. Susie
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Baja_Costero
Mar 7, 2018 12:20 PM CST

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Thank you. I'm sorry to hear you lost the plant. I looked at more pictures and I don't feel like I know the difference between the two plants well enough to move anything around. There seems to be a lot of variability in the Graptopetalum. In any case, there's now a bit of a record in the forums about these plants.
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