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Name: Jai or Jack
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Jai_Ganesha
Mar 6, 2018 8:15 AM CST
Are the Toucan series of purslane P. oleracea or P. umbraticola?

I have seen them listed as both. Clearly, they're not both.

Also--are the Toucan series edible?
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vic
Mar 6, 2018 10:36 AM CST

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I can't answer but I'm sure someone will be along that knows Green Grin! Crossing Fingers! Thumbs up
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Jai_Ganesha
Mar 6, 2018 11:24 AM CST
From what I've gathered, Portulaca oleracea has small yellow flowers, except for when it doesn't. Some sources say it can be pink or orange and larger. Well, OK. Some also say that P. oleracea sometimes has a crowned seedpod. All sources seem to agree that Portulaca oleracea is edible.

And Portulaca umbraticola has any color flowers but always has a crown on the seedpod. I have seen it described as edible, too bitter to eat, and mildly toxic.

To confuse matters, pictures of one seem to be used for the other, even on seed packets. So I don't know for sure what I'm growing. I ordered the named cultivar "Toucan" hoping that somebody can confirm definitively what these are.
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vic
Mar 6, 2018 11:44 AM CST

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To add further confusion, if you go through the threads on this forum, you'll find several conversations about what you're asking and I'm not sure it's ever been answered. Whistling
Name: Jai or Jack
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Jai_Ganesha
Mar 6, 2018 12:05 PM CST
I didn't find any specifically asking whether the Toucan series is P. oleracea or P. umbraticola. Will you please link me to those?
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vic
Mar 6, 2018 1:51 PM CST

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I didn't find any that was specific to Toucan either Sad
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Jai_Ganesha
Mar 6, 2018 2:40 PM CST
@purpleinopp, would you happen to know?
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purpleinopp
Mar 9, 2018 3:41 PM CST
Know for sure? I'd need to be a geneticist I think, to answer that, so...

According to all of the research I've done, and after asking on this forum, other forums, and various FB groups occasionally, there has been nothing offered to refute the information in this article:
http://australianportulaca.blo...

The article explains that for about 20 yrs, P. umbraticola plants were sold as/labeled as P. oleracea cultivars, a misconception that persists.

There does seem to be some cultivars of P. oleracea, but not in regard to ornamental blooms, but in regard to culinary aspects, although it's difficult to know if the authors of articles about this kind of thing are using the botanical epithets correctly.

If there are ornamental cultivars of P. oleracea, with blooms larger than approx. pea size, I've seen no evidence of it.

Since so many people mistake P. umbraticola for P. oleracea, and continually comment about its' deliciousness as well as its' ornamental value, and it was sold with that name for so many years with nobody from the crowd that values the edibility raising a fuss, it seems edible, but I can't say that I've tried it. It's much more valuable to me as an ornamental. If it ever grows more than it has in the past and there is excess, I would satisfy epicuriosity. The last time I even saw any for sale was 2013 or 14. There are tons of recipes out there.

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Name: Jai or Jack
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Jai_Ganesha
Mar 9, 2018 3:45 PM CST
Ooooh, thank you. I had clicked on that link in another (older) thread and it didn't work so I assumed it was broken. But now I realize it's because I was at work. It works on my phone and is very helpful!
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