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Seattle, WA
Emjosullivan
Mar 7, 2018 8:56 AM CST
We moved into a house that has hydrangeas and roses that never got pruned at the end of the season last year. Now they each have new growth starting and I'm not sure where to trim and prune them! If the new growth gets cut off, will they still grow and bloom this year? I'm a novice gardener. Thank you!
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 7, 2018 9:47 AM CST
Prune roses as you normally would.
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Hydrangeas. Some bloom on this year's growth, some bloom on last year's growth. So Shrug!
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Mar 7, 2018 12:03 PM CST

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If your roses are once-bloomers, this would be the wrong time to prune them. They should only be pruned as soon as they have stopped blooming. If they're rebloomers, you could prune them now, but my advice is to let them grow without pruning until you can identify them. Roses don't necessarily require pruning and many perform just as well or better without pruning.
Seattle, WA
Emjosullivan
Mar 7, 2018 2:16 PM CST
Thank you! These roses are about 8 feet tall and look a bit crazy. I'm afraid if I don't prune them they will get even more crazy! Smiling If I do cut them back a bit, I should probably resist cutting back too much?
And for the hydrangeas, if I at least cut off last year's dead flowers and only trim to just above the little new growth sprouts, it should be ok, right?
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Mar 7, 2018 2:25 PM CST
Prune them next year.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Mar 7, 2018 2:45 PM CST

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Yes, next year. As for the hydrangeas, your instinct is correct. Cut off any vestiges of last year's blooms and clip just above the highest new growth.
Seattle, WA
Emjosullivan
Mar 9, 2018 7:08 PM CST
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I'm not sure what kind they are but my husband hates the fact that they are already covering our front windows and is hoping they can be pruned down. Any thoughts??
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis Irises
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zuzu
Mar 9, 2018 8:04 PM CST

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They look like modern climbers. If they are, you could prune them now, but they're likely to grow to the same height later this year. Your best solution is to train them to grow horizontally. If the canes are flexible enough, pull them down and secure them with velcro garden tape to large staples or hooks under the windows. They'll produce more flowers if the canes are horizontal. If the canes aren't flexible, prune them below the windows and start training this year's new growth to grow horizontally below the windows. You can also cut out all of the dead wood.
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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RoseBlush1
Mar 10, 2018 1:30 PM CST
I agree with Zuzu in that they do not HAVE to be pruned and that cutting out any diseased or dead wood is the first step in cleaning up the roses.

It won't hurt them at all to cut them down to the height of the windows and start training them horizontally. You will end up with a far more attractive roses.

There are a lot of right ways to grow roses, so you can end up with a lot of right answers based upon people's experience in their gardens.

Often, how I see a rose and work with it, is different than other gardeners because I was trained differently.

I would probably remove one of the least productive canes down at the base of the rose to begin the rejuvenation process of stimulating the rose to produce more basal breaks and develop new wood for future growth. The new wood will be softer and more easily trained.

Just another approach at working with roses with a lot of old wood at the base.
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
Minnesota (Zone 3b)
RpR
Mar 10, 2018 2:22 PM CST
I see from the pictures that they have been pruned before.

You will not get much from them this year but yeah you probably should just trim them a foot or so below the windows, pluck every single leaf off, spray with something for blackspot and see what happens.
Some times you just have to go for it and see what happens.
Next year , after trimming, you can decide what the future hold.

I would also take a wet-dry shop-vac and suck up ALL the old leaf debris out of the dirt and put down some type of fresh mulch.
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 11, 2018 2:28 PM CST
It's still early for you to prune. Even hear in zone 8/9, is still fine.
Cut them each to 3 to 5 healthy, young canes. The sever pruning will only make them bloom more.
I'll give you a recent example.
My sister's boyfriend gave her a mature, tree rose. She never pruned it, just barely trimmed it. It never bloomed !..….. Then, she finally ! Let me prune it.
It bloomed, that year.

Let me see now ?🤔???.....
It's, not to late to prune.
Hot weather, is 2, 3 months away.
Husband doesn't want them blocking windows !
Why ? Not do as as I suggest ?
Seams to me ! It's a win, win, situation. 👍🤔😀

OH !😮!!! He, He, He ! 😀
"You, can't hardly ! KILL a rose !!!"
I wonder 🤔 ?.…...?
How many people will disagree with me on that ? Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Ttfn 😀
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