Daylilies forum: I need advice on seed starting.

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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 9, 2018 2:18 PM CST
I made two crosses last year just to see if I could make it work. I got seeds from both crosses. I looked up some daylily seed starting videos on Youtube, and did the stratification thing, and then put them in a damp medium and returned them in the fridge. They have been in there for about 6 weeks, and now some of them are showing a root. Should I plant them all now? or just plant the ones that have the root showing? Should I take them out of the fridge? Any help would be appreciated. It's kind of exciting, and I'm just doing this as an experiment, but I don't want to botch it up. Smiling
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Name: Ken
East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)
Region: California
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CaliFlowers
Mar 9, 2018 2:23 PM CST
They won't necessarily all sprout at once, but they're definitely ready for some warmth and light. Are you planning on sowing them indoors under lights?
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 9, 2018 2:32 PM CST
Thanks for your response. I have a nice area with a South exposed window. It's gets sunny and warm outside now during some days so I can take them out into the sun to harden them off as they get larger.
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Name: Ken
East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)
Region: California
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CaliFlowers
Mar 9, 2018 2:57 PM CST
That'll work. Even when they're small, they'll appreciate all the sun they can get, so try to get them outdoors in full sun every day you can. What you don't want to do is let them grow soft and weak behind glass in a warm house, develop long, thin, pale leaves and a corresponding small crown, and then put them outside. I don't imagine you'll have to worry too much about intense sun this time of year.
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Mar 9, 2018 3:20 PM CST
Once you take them out of the fridge they should all germinate fairly quickly at room temperature since they've been stratified to break seed dormancy. BTW I'm wondering what you meant by "the stratification thing" - putting them in damp medium in the fridge would be considered stratification.
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 9, 2018 5:38 PM CST
Well, somewhere I read that they should be stored dry in a fridge first, and then later when you want them to start germinating, put them in a damp medium. Not sure where I read that, maybe saw it on a video, or if it even needed to be done. At least it didn't seem to hurt them. Smiling
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Mar 9, 2018 5:57 PM CST
Now I see what you mean. Stratification is the damp medium in the fridge part. Storage dry in the fridge is just storage. Stratification is to break seed dormancy by simulating winter. For it to work the seeds have to have enough internal moisture, hence the damp medium while chilling. After 4-6 weeks of damp chilling (winter) in the fridge, all the seeds are taken out of the fridge and started at room temperature (spring). For some reason this method is sometimes misinterpreted as leaving them in the fridge until they germinate.

Plants have adapted methods of preventing seedling loss due to adverse environmental conditions by not germinating until they've been through a period of cold followed by warmer temperatures, then they "think" they are safe for a long time until the next winter because they just had one. If daylily seeds are not damp chilled (stratified) before planting they can germinate erratically, and it can be weeks or months before all germinate.
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 9, 2018 6:12 PM CST
Thanks for clearing that up for me! Smiling
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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 13, 2018 9:04 AM CST
22 out of 23 of the seeds had roots starting to emerge! Now I just have to wait for the little green shoots to show faces! Smiling
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Name: Ken
Traverse City, Michigan (Zone 5a)
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bramedog
Mar 13, 2018 2:09 PM CST
Sounds like you're off to a good start, Tom. I have several up as well. Thumbs up
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 13, 2018 5:10 PM CST
Good for you Ken! Is this your first try at DL's?
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great
Name: Ken
Traverse City, Michigan (Zone 5a)
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bramedog
Mar 13, 2018 5:33 PM CST
No, I have been starting them for a couple years now. This is my favorite...blooming two years now.
Patrick Starfish x Rose F Kennedy
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Have a bunch from this cross coming up.
Stenciled Infusion
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Seedling(Dragonfly Dawn x Cobalt Rings)

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Good luck at getting some pretty faces!
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 13, 2018 6:11 PM CST
Love that spider seedling! Lovey dubby
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Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Mar 13, 2018 7:58 PM CST
Hi, Tom
You are treading dangerous waters Rolling my eyes. Good luck with your seedlings Hurray!
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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tveguy3
Mar 14, 2018 3:27 AM CST
I know, but I just had to try it once! (as the saying goes) Hilarious!
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great
Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Mar 14, 2018 6:11 AM CST
It is like eating one potato chip!

I saw a cute seed sowing idea on YouTube. Keep your round Japanese take out bowls for crosses. Just drill drain holes, add soil and seeds. Water then put the top on for a week and then after they sprout you can use it on the bottom to catch excess moisture. I need to find some more bowls lol Good Luck
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Irises Vegetable Grower Butterflies Region: Wisconsin Keeps Horses Cat Lover
Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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tveguy3
Mar 14, 2018 6:24 AM CST
I'd have to eat a lot of take out! Rolling on the floor laughing
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great
Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Mar 14, 2018 7:01 AM CST
And my hubby was wondering why I was keeping bowls lol Rolling my eyes.
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Mar 14, 2018 8:38 AM CST
Bramedog, I absolutely love your seedling.
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Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Irises Vegetable Grower Butterflies Region: Wisconsin Keeps Horses Cat Lover
Dog Lover Keeper of Poultry Daylilies Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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tveguy3
Mar 17, 2018 10:29 AM CST
Hurray! I have babies! Hilarious! 5 little baby DL's sending up their first green spikes so far.
I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion. - Alexander the Great

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