Plant ID forum: Daff Dilemma

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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 9, 2018 11:20 PM CST
I bought planted these this year but failed to photograph the ID. I tried searching with all the particulars but I'm hoping someone may recognize it right off. It's not very tall maybe a foot. It has some distinctions. The rounded sepals, large flowers of heavy substance and fairly frilly corona as you can see. I tip my hat to you.
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jmorth
Mar 10, 2018 12:48 AM CST
Looks to be a Div 2. If the cup is yellow with orange frills, it probably reads like 2 W - YYO. translates to large cupped daffodil white petals with a yellow cup with orange rim.
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jmorth
Mar 10, 2018 12:57 AM CST
Do you know where you obtained them?
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Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Silversurfer
Mar 10, 2018 4:23 AM CST
MAYBE Narcissus roulette?
Yours appears to be tipped orange.

https://order.eurobulb.nl/narc...

http://daffseek.org/detail-pag...

However this may be wrong as there are over 25,000 registered cultivars!
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jmorth
Mar 10, 2018 11:41 AM CST
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
The WITWIT Badge Region: California Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Xeriscape Native Plants and Wildflowers Salvias
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 10, 2018 5:38 PM CST
I looked at all the 2 W - YYO and looked to see which of those are available. Not many of the 25,000 cultivars are available from what I've read and Div. 2 even less of the frilled ones. Read through too many descriptions on Dafseek. I'll keep looking. I was hoping someone might have made the same purchase this year and recognize it. Still time for that as some folk still have winter. More of them are blooming so I'll have a look at more flowers and see if there are any more telling attributes or stronger colors or colotr changes in the corona , etc. It sure is a standout whatever it is. Thank you. I tip my hat to you.
Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California.
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jmorth
Mar 10, 2018 6:00 PM CST
Of daffodil cultivars available to purchase, maybe 10% of the 27000...Recently read that in new (kind of) book, 'Daffodils' by Noel Kingsbury.
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 13, 2018 12:19 AM CST
Shrug! Well I'm no Einstein but this Narcissus is 'Professor Einstein'! D'Oh! I just had to laugh and cry at the irony of it. Never had color like this though. Confused The first flower you saw is the one in bottom right corner and all the more recent blooms were never as orange. This photo is from today. All in all I will buy more of these for the four inch size and the nice white/round perianth.
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Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California.
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member Plant Database Moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier
Garden Ideas: Level 2 Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
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jmorth
Mar 13, 2018 2:07 AM CST
I've reservations as to that identity.
Your 'fairly frilly corona' doesn't match '(scarlet-red), with rim notched in places and minutely crenate' -official description by AMS and RHS of cup and rim, no frills. I think old Einstein's cup is consistently a shade of red.
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Perthshire. SCOTLAND. UK
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Silversurfer
Mar 13, 2018 3:11 AM CST
I agree with jmorth.
It may even have come in a packet labelled Narcissus Prof Einstein, but it is definitely nothing like the flowers which should have vivid orange corolla. Note how the cup is very flattened compared to your white, yellow, orange tip flowers



http://daffseek.org/detail-pag...

http://daffseek.org/detail-pag...

Quote from link below...

The unusual daffodil's central cup is shaped more like a wide open disc or parade-time rosette than a drinking vessel. Set against petals of the purest white, this disc-shaped corona's fiery orange red is shown off to its most striking advantage.

https://www.farmergracy.co.uk/...

Maybe time for you to seek help from The American Daffodil Society.
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
The WITWIT Badge Region: California Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Xeriscape Native Plants and Wildflowers Salvias
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 13, 2018 1:06 PM CST
Not "may even have come in a packet labeled Professor Einstein! It did. That aside no inquires from me would have been necessary had the flowers have match up well with a description in division I tip my hat to you. 2. If I'd found the package label sooner I would have just assumed a packaging error. I've had no intention of posting these as Professor Einstein because it doesn't appear correct. I will, next year, move them into full shade to see if better color develops. It's been a very sunny winter. I'll also purchase more Professor Einstein to do side by side comparison to satisfy my typical curiosity. I can wait. I tip my hat to you. Thank You!
Hamilton Square Garden, Historic City Cemetery, Sacramento California.

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