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Hamwild
Mar 14, 2018 6:56 AM CST
Hi folks, I tip my hat to you.

I bought this Mammillaria last year and still haven't figured out which one it is. Any ideas? Big Grin No blooms yet, so I'm unsure on bloom color.

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Thank You!
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Hamwild
Mar 14, 2018 7:26 AM CST
Erm, meant to add... could it be M. mystax?
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 14, 2018 10:33 AM CST
No, I don't think so. I'm surprised it hasn't bloomed.
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Hamwild
Mar 14, 2018 10:50 AM CST
DaisyI said:No, I don't think so. I'm surprised it hasn't bloomed.


Thank You!

I am too about the blooms! I can't remember when I bought it last year, but I'm hoping with a cold spell in the garage, it'll produce some blooms for me this Spring sometime.
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
Mar 14, 2018 2:00 PM CST
Those periodic long spines and the spiny tufts (as opposed to cottony tuffs) at the base of the tubercles should help with an ID.
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Hamwild
May 11, 2018 1:21 PM CST
If anyone is still following this post, we have buds! Lovey dubby

Not to sound like I'm not excited here, but I'm not surprised that it looks like they're going to be hot pink.



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Hamwild
May 14, 2018 1:54 PM CST
@daisyI, does this help ID it now? Hurray!



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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
May 15, 2018 5:48 PM CST
Well, you would think so but no, not yet. Smiling

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Hamwild
May 15, 2018 5:58 PM CST
Sighing!
Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
May 15, 2018 8:30 PM CST
The problem, which should be the solution:

1 central spine and 5 radials all seem short but heavy

bristles instead of wool in the areoles

New spine growth is dark and fades with age

Pink flowers low on the body so on second year growth, not first year

bright green body, not glaucous

Tubercles seem square but with rounded corners Smiling and well packed in

That's all I've got and it doesn't add up to anything at all. Sighing!

Any sign of dichotomous splitting or offsets?
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Hamwild
May 15, 2018 8:48 PM CST
Thank You! that is rather detailed! It would help if there weren't oodles of species to pick from. Blinking Nope, no splitting or offsets. Big Grin
Name: Thijs van Soest
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mcvansoest
May 15, 2018 9:21 PM CST
I think you should reconsider M. mystax:

An excerpt from the description of M. mystax in Pilbeam's Mammillaria book from the Cactus File Handbook series:

"This name covers a wide spectrum of variation. ..."

"It is described as solitary, cylindric (but more often globular or flat globose), with bristles in the axils , often very prominent, and the reason for the name I have always believed ("mystax" means "moustache"). Radial Spines 3 to 7 (to 10) are white, spreading, 4 to 8 mm long. Central Spines (1 to) 3 to 4 (to 7), are very variable both in length and coloration, from about 2 cm to about 7 cm (Added by me: but I have seen them shorter in specimens positively ID'd as M. mystax) in a sometimes present more centrally-placed spine, stout, tortuous, and interwoven, purplish brown at first, later grey tipped black. Flowers are rose purple with a brownish mid stripe on the outer petals, 2.5 cm long and wide. ..."

One more useful comment regarding the central spines: "maximum exposure to sunlight will encourage the best spination."

So while the plant is not picture perfect for M. mystax, I think it has more characteristics that make it fit than not. Flowers are not quite as open as you often see, but I have had that happen to many plants, often due to issues of light exposure/temperature
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Name: Daisy I
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DaisyI
May 15, 2018 10:41 PM CST
I agree that M. mystax fits better than anything.

All this hunt has really done is make me drool all over my keyboard looking at all the incredible Mammillarias out there. Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Thijs van Soest
Mesa, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Arizona Enjoys or suffers hot summers Cactus and Succulents Xeriscape Adeniums Hybridizer
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mcvansoest
May 15, 2018 11:04 PM CST
I wish I had my camera on me today as I was visiting a neighbor to pick an Agave pup from her, who is a long time member of the Cactus and Succulent society here in Phoenix, she wins a lot of prices at the yearly show... pots and pots with clusters of mammillarias that I could only drool over. Of course 40+ years of growing and clearly expert care is something I cannot yet boast for any of my plants (going on year 12 in the desert and year 11 of serious cactus collecting), but there were some absolutely breath taking specimens in her collection.



Georgia (Zone 8a)
Region: Georgia Enjoys or suffers hot summers Dog Lover Houseplants Cactus and Succulents Foliage Fan
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Hamwild
May 16, 2018 8:52 AM CST
I was considering M. mystax, but wasn't sure. I'll tag it as such. Thank You! Thank You!

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