Lilies forum: Black Beauty lily?

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Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Mar 14, 2018 6:31 PM CST
I just obtained a bulb, and it was described as a species lily.
Searching, gives that is an interspecies hybrid between L.henri and L. speciosum ?

In the data base it is called an Orienpet ?

Can someone tell me about this lily ? what is it ? species ?

And is it not so attractive to the red lily beetle?
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Australis
Mar 14, 2018 6:56 PM CST

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Unfortunately I've seen a number of primary hybrids (hybrids between two different species) sold as species lilies. Lily (Lilium 'Black Beauty') is indeed an interspecies hybrid called an Orienpet (a hybrid between the Oriental and Trumpet divisions).
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William
Mar 15, 2018 3:20 AM CST
Here Black Beauty isn't as attractive as some other lilies to the lily beetle, but unfortunately they can still eat it with pretty good appetite. Hard to judge these things, but I think it's as popular as most other Orienpet lilies in my garden, no more no less. I would say that it probably will get less damage than for instance an LA hybrid(longiflorum-asiatic) as those are pretty popular for the beetles, but other factors influence this as well.
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CarolineScott
Mar 15, 2018 9:32 AM CST
Those marketers are at it again ?
Calling an Orienpet, a species !

It would be nice if it did not attract the red lily beetle.
They are every where here in Calgary, now.
Name: Tracey
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magnolialover
Mar 15, 2018 11:44 AM CST

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It's a really nice orienpet, solid as a rock. It's a great addition to any garden. One of the first garden lilies I ever fell in love with.
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Name: Gary
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hostasmore
Mar 16, 2018 7:52 AM CST
I am hoping that the bitterly cold weather we had before we had snow cover, takes it's toll on the beetles.
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Leftwood
Mar 16, 2018 3:37 PM CST
Lily beetles aren't known to be in Minnesota, yet. Gary, if you think you have them, it is really imperative that their identity is confirmed, and the MN dept of Ag knows about them. Any pics?

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magnolialover
Mar 16, 2018 8:00 PM CST

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Hopefully Japanese Beetles...
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Name: Gary
Wyoming MN (Zone 4a)
hostasmore
Mar 17, 2018 2:13 PM CST
I am no expert,but the ones I saw on my dahlias last year sure looked like the photos I have seen. There were not many of them and I destroyed all that I saw.They showed up very late in the season. I did not notice any on the lilies, though many of my lily blooms were destroyed by a large tree that came down in my yard last year. I will have to pay close attention this coming season.
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CarolineScott
Mar 17, 2018 2:27 PM CST
It is a chore to check the lilies every day, but it is necessary if these little red beetles show up.
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Leftwood
Mar 17, 2018 7:36 PM CST
hostasmore said:I am no expert,but the ones I saw on my dahlias last year sure looked like the photos I have seen.

So they looked like this?
https://www.google.com/imgres?...


The Lily beetle is not known to attack ANY plant outside of the Liliaceae family in the entire world. Dahlias are in the Asteraceae/Compositae family. I think Tracey is right. It's likely you have Japanese beetles.
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hostasmore
Mar 17, 2018 8:25 PM CST
Yes Japanese beetles!
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echoes
Mar 25, 2018 9:25 AM CST
Caroline, you will love this lily. Mine has multiplied over the years to a nice size clump and it is true, the lily beetle doesn't like it. My records show it as a Div. 7 Oriental hybrid.

Parentage: L. speciosum var. rubrum x L. henryi
Hybridizer: R:&N: L.Woodriff, c.1957. Woodriff cat. 1958.
Description: Very dark red, centre green, margins white; fls L. speciosum type. Stems 1.2-1.9m.
Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Mar 27, 2018 9:21 AM CST
THanks........now I understand itts origins

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