Vegetables and Fruit forum: 2018 Tomato Chat

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Name: Don Shirer
Westbrook, CT (Zone 6a)
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DonShirer
Mar 15, 2018 6:18 PM CST
     We have a new 2018 Veggie Gardening discussion, so why not a new Tomato thread? I'll start this off with an offer.
     While sorting my Tomato seeds to get ready for sowing, I had to face facts: I have more varieties than I have room to plant! So reluctantly I had to pick the ones to discard. Some are "free samples", some I thought were ok, just not great, and some (the patio types) I just didn't want to fuss with any more. I don't want to just trash them. Most are no more than 2 yrs old and still have good percentage germination, and quantities of 5-25 seeds.
     So, if you would like to try some or all of these, let me know (send your address in a tree mail) and I'll mail them to you. No guarantees. No returns! Please ask for at least three (or more!) to save me postage.

LARGE/MEDIUM VARIETIES
Nepal      2016
Russian 117      2016
Seattle Best      2017
Polish C              2016
Segler      2017
Pineapple      2017
Opalka      2016

CHERRY/SALADETTE
Pink Ping Pong       2014
Riesentraube      2014
Russian Currant      2018

PATIO
House      2016
Fantastico           2017
Hahms Gelbe     2017
Whippersnapper      2017
Red Robin      2017
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Weedwhacker
Mar 15, 2018 7:05 PM CST
Don, that's a very generous offer -- I already have more than I need too, so I won't be requesting any seeds from you, but I'm sure there are others out there that will be happy to have them!

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Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Mar 16, 2018 6:18 AM CST
Yes, some of us do accumulate an excess of seeds.
Tomorrow is Seedy Saturday in Calgary, and they always have a table where you can drop off extra seeds. Other attendees can go through those seeds, and take what they want.

Good of you to offer yours ! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
Name: Paul Fish
Brownville, Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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PaulF
Mar 16, 2018 1:05 PM CST
My 35 varieties for 2018 are all poking up out of the soilless mix and will need to be transplanted in a week or so. Off we go for another season.
Name: Don Shirer
Westbrook, CT (Zone 6a)
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DonShirer
Mar 19, 2018 5:31 AM CST
       The tomato offer mentioned above is now closed. The ones that nobody wanted I donated to our local garden club. Maybe I'll have more next year.

Don S.
The TODD6 Tomato Datasheet (and instructions) can be downloaded from:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnl...
Name: Caroline Scott
Calgary (Zone 4a)
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CarolineScott
Mar 19, 2018 8:29 AM CST
My old computer does not want to down load your spread sheet. So I will continue to ask questions here on tomatoes.
Last year someone grew Solar Flare, and I am going to start seeds this year. What did anyone find with Solar Flare ?
Name: Don Shirer
Westbrook, CT (Zone 6a)
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DonShirer
Mar 19, 2018 4:10 PM CST
      Solar Flare: Medium-large, OP oblate red with gold (some green) stripes. Early-mid season. "Early fruit has better flavor". Meaty. Pick early, don't leave on vine. Don't confuse with Solar Fire. There is also a larger 'Solar Flare XL' 10-20oz. Most commenters on web liked it, and said taste was on the sweet side of balanced and somewhat intense.

      Caroline, if you can't download TODD from the Dropbox folder below, send me your email address on a tree-mail and I can send it directly to you.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnl...
Name: Don Shirer
Westbrook, CT (Zone 6a)
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DonShirer
Mar 21, 2018 8:21 AM CST
     As a retired scientist, I'm obliged to report on failed experiments as well as successful ones, and this one was a massive failure!
     In November, I decided to grow five varieties of mini-sized patio or dwarf tomato plants under a 4ft LED shoplight to see if I could get some better tasting cherry tomatoes for winter salads than the ones the grocery stores offer. Everything started off fine, I transplanted the seedlings into 4" square pots and started raising the shoplight to keep up with the growth and using Miracle-Gro to fertilize. After fighting off some fruit flies that must have hatched from eggs in the planting mix, most of the varieties topped off at a little over a foot, and the others I gently bent over and supported so I would not have to raise the lights anymore.
     Unfortunately, all of the varieties produced many fewer fruit than the samples I had tried the summer before, so after all the time (and electricity) I spent, I only harvested enough for two or three salads this winter. I don't know if it was the LED light (or not enough of it), a wrong choice in fertilizer, or the insect spray for the flies (or all of them) that contributed to the poor showing, but I don't feel that it is worth repeating the experiment. I will say that the variety that did the best under these conditions was Utyonok, a dwarf yellow-orange saladette tomato with a cute point on the end.
     I am wondering, though, if anyone else ever tried a similar experiment?
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Name: Sandy B.
Ford River, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Seed Starter Vegetable Grower
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Weedwhacker
Mar 21, 2018 1:26 PM CST
That's interesting, Don -- my guess would be insufficient light, but ? I wonder if it would work better to start the plants earlier so they could start setting fruit with natural light, then bring them indoors to grow under the lights. Not sure I'm curious enough to try it, though...
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Mar 21, 2018 2:26 PM CST
While I will enjoy reading about your seed-starting adventures, I continue to just let my local nursery do that part and will buy potted plants later in the spring. Hoping to find ones I've ear-marked, here's my short list in no particular order:

Rose de Berne, Kellogg's Breakfast, Russian Queen, Amazon Chocolate, Bloody Butcher, Lemon Drop, Old German, Pineapple, Sun Sugar, Sweet Baby Girl, Sweet Mojo, Sweed Million, Trucker's Favorite

My goal is to have one red cherry, one orange cherry, one yellow cherry, one red salad, and one of those weird dark ones (I keep trying, but haven't yet found one that appeals to me either visually or tastefully). I mostly just eat them out of hand or in salads and sandwiches.

I'll have to wait and see what my nursery has to offer. Meanwhile, have fun with your seedlings!

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