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Mar 25, 2018 9:03 AM CST
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I found these this morning on my rose creek abelia bush. I am a gardening beginner and after some googling decided the bugs are greenfly aphids, but what are the eggs? I cut the branch off and killed everything I saw. It's in a large pot so I moved it away from my other plants. I'm going to spray it with Seven too. Anything else I should do? Thanks!
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Mar 25, 2018 10:11 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
Livonia Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Sevin has been outlawed for years since it is a known carcinogen. I would suggest something else.
If they are aphids, the eggs from them would be incredibly small!
You have come to the right place for advice, just be patient and people will respond. Meanwhile some better images might help. Most new cell phones have a close up feature which would be helpful in identifying your bugs.
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Mar 25, 2018 10:53 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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The eggs and insects in your pictures are not aphids. I'd need a better look at the insects but not all insects you find on plants are "bad guys". Did you see any damage on the plant? I would not spray with Sevin unless the insects were doing damage as it can cause an increase in spider mites.

Can you try and get a better picture of the insects so that we can identify them and determine if they are good or bad (or the damage if they are definitely bad and there are no insects left).

Edited to add, if they came from those eggs they could be katydid nymphs although the back legs don't look right. Another possibility is assassin bug nymphs.
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Mar 26, 2018 10:57 AM CST
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Not aphids. Aphids don't lay eggs, they have live birth. In FACT, there born pregnant. D'Oh!

Orange, you glad, your not an aphid.
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Mar 26, 2018 12:08 PM CST
Name: Big Bill
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Aphids do lay eggs, it is a holocyclic life cycle. Eggs are all hatched as females, those are called fundatrixes. They produce both males and females. But the egg actually overwinters and that first generation is apparently all female.
It all sounds disgusting.
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Mar 26, 2018 3:10 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Philip is correct, aphids reproduce through live birth (they do lay eggs at certain times of year too but there are so many different species of aphids one would need to look at the individual life cycle of the species in question - but in this case the insects are not aphids anyway).

Aphids giving birth to live young:
https://www.google.ca/search?q...
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Mar 26, 2018 7:56 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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Even if it is aphids, you only need to use water and wash them off to rid the plant of aphids. You don't even need to use insecticidal soap or anything stronger.

You usually find aphids on young, new growth. Just put your hand behind the new growth and wash the aphids off with a strong stream of water. No, they will not climb back up on the plant ... Smiling
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Mar 26, 2018 8:05 PM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
RoseBlush1 said:Even if it is aphids, you only need to use water and wash them off to rid the plant of aphids. You don't even need to use insecticidal soap or anything stronger.

You usually find aphids on young, new growth. Just put your hand behind the new growth and wash the aphids off with a strong stream of water. No, they will not climb back up on the plant ... Smiling


I had some winter-sown celery and endive lettuce under lights and got aphids. Spraying water didn't work. I had to use insecticidal soap and a second spray is required. These guys are DETERMINED, LOL!
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Mar 26, 2018 11:12 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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@Yardenman ...

I can understand your point. However, gardening inside and outside creates a whole lot of variables .... Smiling

I wonder if one could get a strong stream of water inside ?
I'd rather weed than dust ... the weeds stay gone longer.
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Mar 27, 2018 4:43 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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I find it depends on the plant whether you can get a strong enough jet of water to wash off aphids. With a strong-stemmed woody shrub you may be successful but when I tried it with petunias, where the delicate flowers were covered in aphids, I could not blast off the insects with a sprayer without also damaging the flowers or their dodging the jet of water. I tried holding the flowers as I sprayed to give them some support, which was a bit more successful, but it can be very difficult to get ahead of aphids if even a few are left (live-birth fast generation time).
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Mar 27, 2018 5:29 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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Plain water will not give you long term relief. Adding soap won't help.

For 6 years in Florida where insects are a year round problem I use a neem oil spray once a month as a preventative. No more aphids, no mealybugs, no scale and no false spider mites.
I use it on orchids, plumeria, hibiscus, Alamandas and thrips. I have had aphids on my plants for the entire time. Before they were there constantly.
Thrips are worse than the other bugs.
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Mar 27, 2018 6:30 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
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Hopefully YooHooSue will come back with a more detailed picture of the insect so that we can better address the problem. Clearly the insects are not aphids and we need to determine if they actually did damage and are therefore good or bad before killing them.
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