Plant ID forum: Thorny viny spreading ground cover

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N. Texas
MGgardening
Mar 27, 2018 7:30 AM CST
This plant has tiny sharp edges on the leaves and tiny thorns on the stems. It spreads underground fiercely and i have not found a way to eradicate it. When digging the roots break often and keep spreading.
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Mar 27, 2018 7:54 AM CST
Hi and welcome to NGA!

Not Mock Strawberry as I previously said.
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Mar 27, 2018 8:04 AM CST
Not duchesnea, try one of the brambles... Like dewberry.

Yeah, difficult to pull, but the berries are edible.

Dewberry (Rubus trivialis)
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Name: greene
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greene
Mar 27, 2018 8:14 AM CST
Definitely not Mock Strawberry which is soft and not spiny.

I agree Probably one of the many hard-to-identify brambles such as Dewberry. Thumbs up
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N. Texas
MGgardening
Mar 27, 2018 8:16 AM CST
Those leaves look smooth. Our weed has serated edges and does not have any fruit ever.
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Mar 27, 2018 8:22 AM CST
Hmm .. didn't even know about Dewberry! Thanks for the info!
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 27, 2018 8:30 AM CST
A systemic weed killer.
And every time they start to come back. Don't let them grow any size before spraying again. It'll probably take several times.
Or, you can dig, and dispose all soil, dirt, roots and greens. To trash, or buried with at least 12 inches of soil on top.
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Mar 27, 2018 1:00 PM CST
MGgardening said:Those leaves look smooth. Our weed has serated edges and does not have any fruit ever.




They look serrated to me.

Are you seeing flower buds yet?
Most brambles bloom the second year... And then you get fruit... But most people can't leave them alone long enough to enjoy the berries...

I wouldn't want to pick berries if my brambles had been poisoned....
N. Texas
MGgardening
Mar 28, 2018 10:02 PM CST
Thanks so much for everyone's thoughts. Looks like we will spend this season trying to spray all we see and all that keeps coming back, hoping to eventually get it all. I am pretty sure this started by birds bringing it to our yard.
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tx_flower_child
Mar 29, 2018 12:22 AM CST
Moved to Texas when I was 13. We had a housekeeper who would make delicious things from dewberries — pies, cobblers, etc. I'd never heard of dewberries prior to that. Now I know that they grow wild all over Texas.

Dewberries are similar to blackberries. However, dewberries grow more like ground covers whereas blackberries grow more upright. Also, dewberries have spiked stems that look kind of hairy. They also produce fruit earlier than blackberries.

I don't know what kind of property you have, but if it's big enough to allow the dewberries to grow, I'd keep them. They are truly delicious.
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Mar 29, 2018 6:16 AM CST
To me the original photo does look like Dewberry, but the photo from the database does not. I have never seen it to have leaves in groups of five,
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MGgardening
Mar 31, 2018 9:03 AM CST
We have a small flower bed area mostly under a live oak tree and this vine has nearly covered the entire area which is nearly all of our back yard behind the pool and crowds our flowers with its thorny leaves and stems. I certainly don't want to keep it for any reason.
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greene
Mar 31, 2018 10:31 AM CST
MGgardening said:... tiny sharp edges on the leaves and tiny thorns on the stems.

Please, I see you added one image for this plant. Can you please take more images to show the "sharp edges on the leaves" and the "tiny thorns on the stems".
Thank you.

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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Mar 31, 2018 1:42 PM CST
(You can always do that after you rip them out if desired.)
Porkpal
N. Texas
MGgardening
Apr 7, 2018 8:45 AM CST
Here are closerr photos hopefully showing the tiny thorns on the leaves and the stems. When dug up the roots are reddish in color.
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Apr 7, 2018 11:16 AM CST
It still looks to be Dewberry to me.
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Name: greene
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greene
Apr 8, 2018 3:20 AM CST
The Dewberry has prickles on the leaf petiole. There is a good description of Dewberry here:
http://science.halleyhosting.c...
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