Plant ID forum: Vine identification

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Southeast Texas
Mannn2
Mar 28, 2018 12:32 PM CST
Hello all! I have two unknown vines growing in the slightly wooded area behind my house. Both are climbing and both have tendrils. We threw some old pumpkins back there last year but I am not sure if that is actually what one of these are. From my research my guess would be a grape vine and a pumpkin vine. We just bought this house in the fall of last year so we are unfamiliar with our new plants. We also have blackberries but I am confident they are not either of these vines. The possible grape vine comes out of a thick bark like structure similar to a small tree trunk. The first two pictures are of the suspected pumpkin vine. The leaves on the suspected pumpkin vine become less rigid on the edges as they grow. The next ones are from the suspected grape vine. Thanks!
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Mar 28, 2018 12:41 PM CST
First two, not pumpkins. Possibly some kind of berry or grape.
3rd is grape.
4th looks like a fig.
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porkpal
Mar 28, 2018 2:22 PM CST
I think most of what you show is some sort of grape. On the left side of the 4th photo is some pepper vine.
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DaisyI
Mar 28, 2018 2:24 PM CST
They all look like grapes. Did someone plant them?
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plantladylin
Mar 28, 2018 2:38 PM CST
They all look like Grapes to me too, a couple of possibilities:

Mustang Grape (Vitis mustangensis)
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2...

Southern Fox Grape (Vitis rotundifolia)
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2...

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Southeast Texas
Mannn2
Mar 28, 2018 3:49 PM CST
I have no idea if someone planted them. I never saw any berries or grapes when we moved in, but we moved in late fall. If they are grapes, would they be edible?
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DaisyI
Mar 28, 2018 5:00 PM CST
You will have to do a taste test. They will be small if they are wild but some are tasty and some are really sour.
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 29, 2018 12:29 AM CST
In photo five isn't that a berry vine/leaves top center?
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porkpal
Mar 29, 2018 6:03 AM CST
Yes, I see it too.
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Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Mar 29, 2018 6:23 AM CST
My first thought was Fox grape as @plantladylin suggested.
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2...
This plant grows where I live and the leaf shape is variable.

There is also a Mustang grape.
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2...

If you could take photos showing the back side of the leaves that might help. Also feel the back to see if they are 'furry' (sorry I don't know the botanical name for that).

Either way, these grapes grow because birds and other animals eat the grapes and deposit the seeds. There were some wild grapes near me that my neighbor found quite edible. When the county maintenance men were trimming back all the vegetation from along the fenceline at the school they never cut back the grapes as they recognized them as edible. I think if yours get enough sunlight the taste may be okay.

When someone plants grapes they usually plant in a very sunny location. Most of the time there will be some kind of support such as an arbor, trellis, etc.
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plantladylin
Mar 29, 2018 9:32 AM CST
I think I see Peppervine in there too, possibly Peppervine (Ampelopsis arborea) a Texas native:
https://aggie-horticulture.tam...
http://www.foragingtexas.com/2...
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 29, 2018 4:33 PM CST
What about the green seed-heads that look like Raspberry/Blackberry? There are about five in the lower center of photo five. Not a very clear picture and lots of plants to see through.
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plantladylin
Mar 29, 2018 5:13 PM CST
HamiltonSquare said:What about the green seed-heads that look like Raspberry/Blackberry? There are about five in the lower center of photo five. Not a very clear picture and lots of plants to see through.


Aha, I do see what you are referring to and it does look like fruits forming. I also see a dead twig/stem on the left with thorns! I bet there might be Wild Blackberry (Rubus cochinchinensis) or possibly Dewberry (Rubus trivialis) growing in there with the grape vines.

A photo of Dewberry fruit for comparison at the bottom of this page:
http://centenaryarboretum.blog...

LOL, I just now notice too that there is white Salvia growing in amongst those vines, etc.
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 29, 2018 5:55 PM CST
I missed the dead twig completely. Blinking Thorns and all.
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Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Mar 29, 2018 6:11 PM CST
plantladylin said:
LOL, I just now notice too that there is white Salvia growing in amongst those vines, etc.


I don't see any Salvia but I see leaves and flowers of Florida Betony.


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porkpal
Mar 29, 2018 6:13 PM CST
Such an entertaining jungle! I wonder whether the original poster's question has been answered to satisfaction.
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HamiltonSquare
Mar 29, 2018 6:19 PM CST
Yes. Entertaining. I had to ask what WITWIT for the badges meant. Hilarious! Sure fit for me. There is one more plant in there............... Big Grin
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rivercircle2
Mar 31, 2018 6:42 PM CST
be careful with wild grapes, left on their own they can kill a tree in a few short years. ps, the photo immediately looked more like a berry to me as well as opposed to a grape.

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