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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jan 13, 2019 9:52 PM CST
The rate of multiplication seems exceptional, if all those plants came from just one plant. The root systems reminds me a lot of the plants that grow in my bog beds...very many feeder roots and almost no Tuberous type roots. The constant supply of water seems to change they way the roots respond, were these plants keep watered consistently in the container?
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jan 13, 2019 11:45 PM CST
Larry - The photo just depicts one seedling showing the numerous fans and abundant roots that it has developed over an 18 month period.

These sibling seedlings did not receive any additional care or watering than all my other various crosses of seedlings in similar containers. None have multiplied nor have massive roots like the cross of these 3 seedlings. I think it must have something to do with the cross.

I just want to find out if this is in fact unusual? And if so, do I need to worry about these seedlings becoming a bit invasive due to such rapid growth?
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Name: Vickie
Elberfeld, Indiana, USA (Zone 6b)
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blue23rose
Jan 14, 2019 5:47 AM CST
I am afraid I don't have an answer for you Becky, but that root mass is very interesting. I dug up a Stella de Oro plant this year that had not been touched for at least 10 years and it looked kind of like that, so am wondering what would happen if you separated this clump and gave each double fan more room.

I know you have hybridized enough years that if you find this unusual, then it is. So my guess would be that you are right and that it may have something to do with that particular cross. The roots of some daylilies do act differently than the norm.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jan 14, 2019 8:06 AM CST
I would line row a of them out in a separate bed in a way they could be contained. Then keep an eye on them and see how aggressive they become. I don't see any rhizomes or stolons so maybe at least they would not cause to much of a problem spreading.
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Jan 14, 2019 11:57 AM CST
This is an hybridizers dream when outstanding keepers multiply like that $$$. Some just multiply faster than others and others just sit there. Becky did they bloom yet ? Any info on the parents ?
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jan 14, 2019 12:16 PM CST
I hope it's not typical cuz my babies are all like 8 inches apart out there in their screened-in bed😵
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
Jan 14, 2019 8:00 PM CST
@beckygardener,
In comparison to other seeding planted and grown along with these, how do they compare as far as fan size? Are these noticeably smaller?
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jan 14, 2019 9:41 PM CST
Wow! Thanks for all the replies. I really, really appreciate it.

I noticed right away how this cross was multiplying. These plants have shorter, smaller leaves and smaller flowers. And if I remember correctly, at least one of the seedlings had instant reblooms and then rebloomed again after that. These seedlings really impressed me!

Now out of 4 seedlings from that cross, one of the seedlings has not multiplied like the other 3 siblings. But I am not sure if the reason is because they were all crowded in that container and the larger clumps were taking nutrients from the smaller seedling. I think the 4th seedling now has 3 fans. But I have since transplanted all 4 clumps of them into a raised bed giving them each much more room to to show their stuff. Unfortunately, I don't have the yard space/garden space to line them out anywhere.

I don't remember seeing any other seedling crosses that I have grown, multiply quite as fast as this cross has. Now my problem is that I am concerned it might be a bit aggressive/invasive. Being transplanted into a raise bed may reveal if that is it's true growth habit. I hope to find out this year. It is almost an instant clump after about 1 year or less of growing. Pretty amazing for me to see a clump from a seedling so quickly. I have 4 year old seedlings that still haven't produced a clump. LOL!
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Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Jan 18, 2019 7:02 AM CST
Becky any pictures to share ?
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jan 18, 2019 7:50 PM CST
Mike - Do you mean of the clumps of these 4 siblings?
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Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Jan 19, 2019 7:00 AM CST
Becky I was hoping for pictures of the blooms nodding
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jan 19, 2019 7:37 AM CST
Mike - The blooms are in this thread. This thread is about this cross and the 4 siblings! Blinking Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I will add more photos this bloom season to compare whether the blooms stayed consistent or changed.
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jan 19, 2019 7:46 AM CST
Mikey, I almost posted right before Becky, asking for pics of the seedlings. Luckily, I had time to delete my idiocy. Leaving just you Rolling on the floor laughing nodding Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jan 19, 2019 8:00 AM CST
Open mouth insert foot, is often my own dilemma.... Rolling on the floor laughing

To locate the crosses in this thread, they are under the names: TTT26, TTT27, TTT28, TTT29. The last one of which has yet to bloom.

TTT26:
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TTT27:
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TTT28:
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All 3 of them are clumps with short leaves and smaller blooms. But they produced a lot of blooms for me last year (which was their first bloom year). I became smitten with all of them right away because they are smaller flowers (I love the minis) and formed clumps so darn quickly. They are daylilies for growing in a container or in the front of the garden bed. The blooms are not quite miniature flowers though. But smaller blooms than what I normally grow. The stats are in this thread.
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Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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beckygardener
Jan 19, 2019 8:21 AM CST
I found the Pedigree chart that I had created last season:

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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Jan 19, 2019 9:25 AM CST
Good work, Becky and I love your pedigree chart I tip my hat to you.
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jan 19, 2019 9:57 AM CST
Becky, they are gorgeous! Right, Mikey? You did see them now, didn't you? Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
I are sooooo smart!
Name: Mike
Hazel Crest, IL (Zone 5b)
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Hazelcrestmikeb
Jan 20, 2019 7:01 AM CST
It's coming back to the old man. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I remember giving Thumbs up for your little cuties.
Mary I love you like a sister no matter what Big Grin
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Name: Mary
Crown Point, Indiana (Zone 5b)
josieskid
Jan 20, 2019 7:09 AM CST
Mikey, you are great fun Hurray! Hilarious! Hurray!
I are sooooo smart!

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