Daylilies forum: What do you think my CHILD will look like - Prediction Game #2?

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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Apr 6, 2018 6:03 PM CST
This is a second cross to predict what this child will look like when it blooms. It has never bloomed and was sowed on July 2017. This is a guessing game to see if you can predict what the blooms will look like. You can go to this thread to see the first guessing game cross: The thread "What do you think my CHILD will look like?" in Daylilies forum

This second seedling cross is TTT36. The parents are Galaxy Explosion x Wild One. The sad thing about this cross is that during Hurricane Irma, I lost both parents from a suspected tornado that may have ripped through my backyard and literally up-rooted the back section of my largest raised bed where these parents (and several others) were growing. So I am glad that I managed to collect some seeds prior to the hurricane hitting most of Florida. I hope I get something good from the cross. Wild One was one of my favorite cultivars. I loved it! The blooms lit up that raised bed. So pretty! Who knows what a cross with Galaxy Explosion will create!

So here is the current scape on the seedling. Just 1 fan and scape.

TTT36 (Galaxy Explosion x Wild One):
Thumb of 2018-04-06/beckygardener/adafac

Parents .....

Galaxy Explosion (pod parent):



Wild One (pollen Parent):



So what is your guess for this child?
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Apr 6, 2018 6:05 PM CST
Not sure why it is posting 2 of the same photos from the Plant database of the parent blooms.
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Name: Char
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Char
Apr 6, 2018 6:10 PM CST

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I checked it for you Becky and there was a second script in there. I removed it for you. (As you can see by me being listed for an "edit" on your post)
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Apr 6, 2018 6:11 PM CST
Here are photos taken from my garden of the 2 parents before I lost them last year:

Galaxy Explosion (pod parent) bloom and buds:
Thumb of 2018-04-07/beckygardener/0d001e

Wild One (pollen parent) blooms and buds:
Thumb of 2018-04-07/beckygardener/c951ca

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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Apr 6, 2018 6:12 PM CST
Char - Thanks!!!
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Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Apr 6, 2018 8:13 PM CST
Seems they would make pretty kids. I hope you get a beauty from them especially since you lost the parents. Sad
I think it will look more like Galaxy Explosion.
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Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Apr 7, 2018 5:59 AM CST
Oh goodie! Another guessing game!

As much as I would like for this seedling to look like Wild One, I think it will be a dark orange.
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ediblelandscapingsc
Apr 7, 2018 6:20 AM CST
Great cross Becky, I'm sorry to hear you lost both of the parents. I lost my most expensive daylily this year "tet almira buffalo bone jackson" and it made me sick. I never even got to see it bloom Sad Crying
I can't wait to see what your baby looks like I'm thinking Galaxy Explosion's patterns will shine through but Wild One genes will change the shape of the flower. I have several Galaxy Explosion seedlings and it seems that pattern is evident in all it's offspring.
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Name: Tina
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beenthere
Apr 7, 2018 6:57 AM CST
I have, and plan to use Galaxy Explosion to hybridize this year. So, I'm really interested in what you get. I may have to get Wild One now also, so pretty! I love your bold crosses, Becky! Best game, ever! Can't wait to see.
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touchofsky
Apr 7, 2018 7:10 AM CST
I think it will have the eyezone of Galaxy Explosion, maybe a tad lighter than GE, with slightly wider petals. Actually, I have no idea Hilarious! , other than the eyezone. I think that will come through in the offspring.
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cwhitt
Apr 7, 2018 9:38 AM CST
OK, I am joining the game. I will say skinny long petals - longer than GE - green merging to yellow eyezone. Somewhat ruffled, ridged and veined petals. Deep rose of GE up the center of each petal, with yellow to pink towards the edges.
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bxncbx
Apr 7, 2018 4:05 PM CST
Oops, almost missed this one! Thanks for putting a link in the other thread!

I've been wanting Wild One for awhile now. I just love it!

Based on the buds I'd say the form will be more like GE. But I'm hoping the color will be more like WO. Definitely a yellow throat. And I guess it will have a dark chevron (?) eye.
Name: Nancy
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alilyfan
Apr 9, 2018 5:28 AM CST
I have been watching your posts, waiting for the openings. I have been growing out seedlings for a few years now. A couple of my favorite seedlings changed drasticly from the first year to the 2nd. Wish I had photos to show you, but both were very pretty and more unusual the first year, much more common looking the next. I just found it interesting that several others do not find as much change. One in particular had a huge very blue eye zone, very unusual look to it the first year. The next year it looked much more like its pod parent, Moonlit Masquerade.
Hope you get lots of beautiful ones. My problem, I love them all but am out of room to save them all.
Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Apr 9, 2018 10:21 PM CST
I have been enjoying everyone's comments and predictions. I want to share a new photo from this morning of this seedling's buds:

TTT36:
Thumb of 2018-04-10/beckygardener/e6202b

And I also have a couple of other siblings from the same cross. Here is 1 of the siblings that has also produced a scape with buds.

TTT33:
Thumb of 2018-04-10/beckygardener/979c98

What has surprised me the most about this cross is the color coming through on the buds. The buds of both seedlings look like the petals will be yellow like Wild One. I am wondering if Galaxy Explosion's pattern will even show up. If not, then I am wondering why? If the pod parent had been Wild One instead of Galaxy Explosion, then I would assume a bee pod, but these 2 seedlings came from a pod of GE. So this cross has me VERY curious!

The other thing to note looking at the buds .... The TTT36 has fatter buds like Wild One. But TTT33 has thinner, longer buds like Galaxy Explosion. Therefore I am speculating that one may resemble the bloom form of WO and the other may resemble the form of GE.

This particular cross has definitely surprised me so far. I can't wait for both seedlings to bloom.

Alilyfan - I have had some of mine change over the period of 3 years, too! I think that is why hybridizers wait 3 years before registering a seedling. Best to see what it becomes after 3 seasons of blooming.
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Name: Sue Petruske
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petruske
Apr 9, 2018 10:31 PM CST
alilyfan said: A couple of my favorite seedlings changed drasticly from the first year to the 2nd. Wish I had photos to show you, but both were very pretty and more unusual the first year, much more common looking the next. I just found it interesting that several others do not find as much change. One in particular had a huge very blue eye zone, very unusual look to it the first year. The next year it looked much more like its pod parent, Moonlit Masquerade. .

I guess I'm surprised to hear that they may not look as good the 2nd year as the 1st. I had a bunch of seedlings bloom last year and am excited to see them this year because I've heard that they may well improve the second and third year. Hmmmm. Guess I'll find out in about 3 months from now.

I can't wait to see the seedling. I still think it will have the eye from GE. Crossing Fingers!

Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Apr 9, 2018 10:35 PM CST
I was looking at my 2 photos above of the parents: https://garden.org/thread/view...

Take a look at the actual buds in those 2 photos. I may be totally wrong about the bloom color. Looking at GE, it appears that the buds look a bit yellow like these seedling buds. So they could still have orange-red blooms with a pattern.

It's anyone's guess what the first blooms will look like ..... Confused Confused Confused Confused

I love the suspense and surprise! Both buds should bloom sometime this week. I will post photos when they do! Thumbs up
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Name: Stan
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GaNinFl
Apr 10, 2018 7:39 AM CST
Becky, wouldn't you agree, the surprise of what the face will look like is what makes the bloom of a new seedling so exhilarating. I think it's the reason most of us make our crosses.

Although, I don't have any predictions, I have enjoyed your new threads discussions and look forward to the reveal of your seedlings beauty!
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Name: Dennis
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Dennis616
Apr 10, 2018 7:57 AM CST
I did a quick combo of the two like I do for most of my crosses. Can give an idea of what color could possibly result...
Thumb of 2018-04-10/Dennis616/e4c81e
Thumb of 2018-04-10/Dennis616/2ccf24
Looks like yellow-orange is a likely outcome...

Name: Vickie
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blue23rose
Apr 10, 2018 11:34 AM CST
I got Wild One last year so am very glad to see what it does when crossed. I think my previous guess of 'dark orange' will be wrong based on the light coloring of those buds. D'Oh!
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Name: Becky
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beckygardener
Apr 10, 2018 7:15 PM CST
Dennis - That is very interesting what you did to try to get a prediction based on the blooms! You might be right! I think your second photo may be what this one will wind up looking like. Thumbs up

Here is a photo I took late this afternoon of the bud that looks like it might just bloom tomorrow. (Photo looks better NOT enlarging it.) Hopefully the rain won't ruin the bloom before I get a photo of it.
Thumb of 2018-04-11/beckygardener/865043

Very similar to Wild One's buds before opening.
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