Plant ID forum: Tree ID please?

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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 8, 2018 8:10 PM CST
This is about 25' tall. Growing wild on my property & blooming now. I thought it was sumac but caught these blooms on film & they don't look like any sumac I can find.

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Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Apr 8, 2018 8:26 PM CST
My first thought was Amelanchier of some sort but I can't see the flowers or leaves clearly.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 8, 2018 8:37 PM CST
Thanks Lin but it isn't Amelanchier. I know the blooms are not in focus very well. They are way high up there & since I thought it was a sumac, I didn't concentrate on leaves. Tomorrow or Wednesday I can get some good shots of the leaves. Let me see if I have any photos where I can zoom in on the leaves.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 8, 2018 8:38 PM CST
Nope. I'll have to take some.
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Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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ViburnumValley
Apr 8, 2018 9:05 PM CST
Can't be Amelanchier sp. nor Rhus sp. (Sumac); there are clearly opposite arrangement of pinnate compound leaves.

I don't recognize the plant, otherwise, but this info may help others in the ID effort.

John
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Apr 8, 2018 9:07 PM CST
Chinaberry Tree I think.
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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HamiltonSquare
Apr 8, 2018 9:09 PM CST
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Apr 8, 2018 9:14 PM CST
I agree with Chinaberry.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 9, 2018 5:01 AM CST
Leslie & Pokpal got it right. Chinaberry it is. Thank you guys! I tip my hat to you. Thank You!

So it gets cut down.
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Not to mention that birds can become paralyzed by eating the berries.

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Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Apr 9, 2018 11:20 AM CST
Hurray! Good eyes y'all. I didn't even think of Chinaberry and that beautiful pest has a wide range around our state: http://florida.plantatlas.usf....
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plantmanager
Apr 9, 2018 11:25 AM CST
Ann, I grew up with Chinaberry trees. I loved playing with the berries when I was a kid. It was a very messy tree as I remember, but in Arizona, shade is needed, and they provided shade.
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Silversurfer
Apr 9, 2018 11:33 AM CST
flaflwrgrl said:Leslie & Pokpal got it right. Chinaberry it is. Thank you guys! I tip my hat to you. Thank You!

So it gets cut down.
CATEGORY II on the Florida Exotic Pest Plant Council's (FLEPPC) 2017 List of Invasive Plant Species
TOXIC TO LIVESTOCK
Non-Native to Florida
Not to mention that birds can become paralyzed by eating the berries.

http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/pla...


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Category 2 is no where near as bad as Category 1.

"CATEGORY II
Invasive exotics that have increased in abundance or frequency but have not yet altered Florida plant communities to the extent shown by
Category I species. These species may become ranked Category I if ecological damage is demonstrated."

Melia azedarach is a tree I love..you are so lucky that you can grow it.
Britain is too cold to grow it.
Does it really have to go?


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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 9, 2018 11:41 AM CST
I am sorry. Yes, it really has to go. I do understand where you're coming from though. While category two is not as bad as category one, this is Florida. In Florida things get out of control very quickly. They can go from a category two invasive to a category one invasive in a matter of a few years. I have lived in this state all my life and have seen the evidence of that. While I agree that it is very pretty and I do love the flowers, I do not need the tree here especially in the spot it is growing in. It is growing in amongst a group of trees and that is part of the reason that it got so tall and so skinny in order to reach the sunlight. So it is providing no shade for anything because it's already very shady underneath it and it just isn't doing any one or anything any good.
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Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX
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porkpal
Apr 9, 2018 1:10 PM CST
Chinaberry is considered invasive here too. We have a couple that provide great shade in the back barnyard but have no chance of spreading. The leaf cutter ants strip them bare by mid summer so they never get a chance to produce their toxic and very fertile berries.
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Name: greene
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greene
Apr 9, 2018 1:48 PM CST
You added a photo to the database. Is this another of the same tree?

We have some of the Chinaberry here. They are beautiful but I agree, in the warmer climates they can quickly get out of hand.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 9, 2018 1:54 PM CST
@porkpal
Oh lovely, leaf cutter ants. Yikes! Do me a favor please & don't let any of those ants head east & then south. That's all we need! Rolling my eyes. Rolling my eyes.

It was only 2 or 3 months ago when I was in town & at this building, they had what I did not know at the time were Chinaberry trees. They still had a few leaves on them & bunches of the berries. I thought the leaves alone were very pretty, sort of lacy looking, soft & feminine. I gathered the berries & brought them home & ID'd them & got rid of the berries b/c I knew then I did not want these trees. What a riot that I actually do have one. That's life!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Lin
Florida Zone 9b, 10a

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plantladylin
Apr 9, 2018 1:59 PM CST
greene said:You added a photo to the database. Is this another of the same tree?


greene, that sure looks like the fruit of Melia azedarach to me.
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Apr 9, 2018 2:16 PM CST
Yes, those are the berries that I brought home several months ago and ID'd
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Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
Sacramento California (Zone 9b)
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HamiltonSquare
Apr 9, 2018 3:55 PM CST
We have this tree here. Big and old. They just built new condo's next to two of them. The're street trees and the worst thing, for me, about them is the messy, supper stinky sticky sickening fruit rotting all over the street and sidewalk for a month making it a big noooo way. Crying
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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Apr 9, 2018 5:23 PM CST
You must need some leaf cutter ants!
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