Daylilies forum: Winter losses?

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Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Apr 9, 2018 9:38 PM CST
We had a harsher winter this year and got down to zero. Snow, but not always when it was so cold. I have lost a couple that I will not be replacing. I have tried BAJA CALIFORNIA two seasons. No sign of it coming back Angry

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Did anyone lose plants other than me ??
Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
Apr 9, 2018 10:03 PM CST
Too soon for me to tell yet. Still having COLD temps here in Wisconsin. I could probably go and look to find some that only "look" like they are goners but they usually show up when the weather FINALLY warms up. I'll be interested in my seedling bed to see if I lost any there. My gardens didn't get a lot of snow cover this winter. I rarely lose daylilies, but there have been a few over the years.

Do you think any of yours could still peek through for you???
Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Apr 10, 2018 4:01 AM CST
Only new seedling losses here, thankfully, luckily I don't think that I have ever lost a daylily plant here, even though we sometimes get down to -20°C +
Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Apr 10, 2018 5:08 AM CST
I have rarely lost plants either. Some were in pots for the first winter. I guess I should have put a frost blanket on them. I don't any will come up later, my plants are over 6 inches tall.
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Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
Apr 10, 2018 6:32 AM CST
Too soon to tell. Last year I was sure I lost Rollercoaster Rush but all of a sudden it showed up mid summer. Don't give up yet Teresa Smiling
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Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
Apr 10, 2018 6:41 AM CST
I agree Don't give up before mid-summer and also don't poke around looking for them.

Any growth at all would be welcome here, nothing really showing yet and it's snowing as I write this.
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Apr 10, 2018 6:45 AM CST
It isn't snowing here, Sue, at the moment, but cloudy. The only growth in my garden are a few brave bulbs poking through.

It is too soon to tell about daylily losses this past winter. We had a very cold December with no snow. I hope they all survived, but time will tell.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Apr 10, 2018 7:06 AM CST
The only ones I'm worried about here are new ones that were planted last spring in the raised bed vegetable garden (didn't have anywhere else to put them at the time - it was supposed to be temporary!). I surrounded the raised bed with bags of mulch to try and insulate the sides more, which is just as well given the lack of snow cover at times in the winter, being on the outside of a raised bed makes them more vulnerable to temp fluctuations. Everything else has survived for years here whatever the winter.

Although I think in this climate daylilies tend to survive better than in some milder winter areas because the ground stays frozen through winter, so they don't try to grow and then get zapped back again. We often have winters with very cold temperatures (-22F or -30C and lower) when there's little or no snow which makes me think it isn't so much a snow cover thing.
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Pat236
Apr 10, 2018 7:07 AM CST
Most of what I lost were in pots....not sure if it was the cold winter with snow, but it's more likely something I did or did not do.
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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Apr 10, 2018 7:12 AM CST
sooby said:The only ones I'm worried about here are new ones that were planted last spring in the raised bed vegetable garden (didn't have anywhere else to put them at the time - it was supposed to be temporary!). I surrounded the raised bed with bags of mulch to try and insulate the sides more, which is just as well given the lack of snow cover at times in the winter, being on the outside of a raised bed makes them more vulnerable to temp fluctuations. Everything else has survived for years here whatever the winter.

Although I think in this climate daylilies tend to survive better than in some milder winter areas because the ground stays frozen through winter, so they don't try to grow and then get zapped back again. We often have winters with very cold temperatures (-22F or -30C and lower) when there's little or no snow which makes me think it isn't so much a snow cover thing.


Your post eases my concern, Sue!
Athens, Ohio (Zone 6a)
mantisOH
Apr 10, 2018 7:16 AM CST
Teresa, plants in pots are definitely more vulnerable to loss, even if mulched. From your list, only Intelligent Design is one that grows well here. Otherwise, it's a list of tenders; but you are farther south. I'm not saying that none of those would survive; rather, not thrive here.
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alilyfan
Apr 10, 2018 9:52 AM CST
Oh, you lost some nice ones. I Group hug see you lost 2 that I have been especially interested in- Baja California and Bullfrog Kisses. Maybe so won't be trying those. I lost one I have had for years, darla Anita, something got into it last year though and lost all but a couple of weak fans. Not really surprised at that one. A new one, Levi James, is not up but hope it may come up late. I dug around it A bit and the roots still seem ok.
Name: Arlene
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florange
Apr 10, 2018 10:17 AM CST
Don't pursue Bullfrog Kisses too much! I tossed it last fall because it is an absolute rust bucket! I really liked it and it usually the first or second daylily to bloom, but as much as I sprayed, it just wouldn't let go of the rust.
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alilyfan
Apr 10, 2018 5:38 PM CST
Well, we get enough freezing here that I don't have to worry about rust, but don't want to have to worry about them surviving. I don't usually have problems with overwintering, I lose them in August to what I guess is crown rot.
Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
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shive1
Apr 10, 2018 6:01 PM CST
Baja California and Bullfrog Kisses got knocked back here too, but the fans are starting to poke out of the ground. Give those some more time before you give up on them.
Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Apr 10, 2018 8:11 PM CST
I had those in the ground, Debra. I haven't dug around but no sign yet. The ones in pots roots are just mush Angry I did look at those.
Name: Roger & Karen
Birmingham, Al (Zone 7a)
Diggerofdirt
Apr 10, 2018 8:36 PM CST
For sure we lost Hot Seat, Witches Wink and dont think spellbound secret is going to recover.
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Name: Ashton & Terry
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kidfishing
Apr 10, 2018 9:46 PM CST
sooby said:The only ones I'm worried about here are new ones that were planted last spring in the raised bed vegetable garden (didn't have anywhere else to put them at the time - it was supposed to be temporary!). I surrounded the raised bed with bags of mulch to try and insulate the sides more, which is just as well given the lack of snow cover at times in the winter, being on the outside of a raised bed makes them more vulnerable to temp fluctuations. Everything else has survived for years here whatever the winter.

Although I think in this climate daylilies tend to survive better than in some milder winter areas because the ground stays frozen through winter, so they don't try to grow and then get zapped back again. We often have winters with very cold temperatures (-22F or -30C and lower) when there's little or no snow which makes me think it isn't so much a snow cover thing.


Sue,
I think your statement is very true. Recently someone mentioned a post from Dr. Arlow Stout (father of the modern dayliy). Dr. Stout once wrote that no daylily should ever be registered unless it can be grown in Oklahoma. He went into some detail about his reasoning and his testing. Most people would naturally think Wisconsin should be much tougher on daylilies. His main work was in New York and Wisconsin but he tested in other areas. He apparently found the toughest climate on his plants was Oklahoma.
We lose plants every year. They just fail to come back after winter. They can die during summer even with good care. I don't think we lose many to cold or freezing temperatures. Our record cold is 17 below zero F. I think it is our winter yo yo temps with continual freeze and thaw. Also extreme and sudden changes for example a warm fall and then the arctic blast. Like November a few years back where there was no freeze until the day it went from 84f to 9f in about 18 hours. We lost all kinds of plants from that. I have a whole basket full of daylily name tags of lost plants just from last year, not at all sure how many. It may be discouraging if I made a list.
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Apr 10, 2018 9:54 PM CST
kidfishing said:
They can die during summer even with good care. I don't think we lose many to cold or freezing temperatures.


Yup! I did lose some seedlings this winter, but they were deliberately exposed in mostly small containers. About 50% of the total number, but some specific crosses didn't fare very at all. But it's the summers here that are the killer.
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Name: Teresa
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Apr 11, 2018 4:15 AM CST
I am sorry for everyone losses, but I am glad to not be alone in this. It is disheartening. I think KY has some wide range of temps that may be part of the problem. Plus lack of snow cover. We can have hi highs and then freezing within days.

Digger, thanks for the offer of Intelligent Design. I was surprised to lose a Emmerich plant.

On the seedlings, it maybe painful to see them die, but I wish others would be as brutal in their evaluations.
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