Daylilies forum: Winter losses?

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Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Apr 16, 2018 4:49 PM CST
Well now I feel really stupid! Found what Sue wrote in 2014 about spring sickness. I need to start searching for answers here, first. Much more informative than the Net. I did see what I thought were signs of leaf streak on a few last year. Just chalked it up to them being new and stressed. Wish they knew why these things affect some, and not others.
Name: Sue
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sooby
Apr 16, 2018 5:34 PM CST
If they're in different spots are you sure it is spring sickness and not freeze damage? Do you have any pictures?
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Apr 16, 2018 6:35 PM CST
I will take some pictures tomorrow , Sue. Dark here already. Was also looking at pictures from last summer, and will try to share some that may, or may not, show leaf streak. So the bulb mite does the initial damage and thus allows the leaf streak fungus to infect the plant. And plants that show spring sickness are invariably infected with streak leaf fungus. That totally explains why some are affected and others aren't. Bulb mites may only exist in some areas of ones garden. But, that scares me, cos they are possibly all over the right side of my hill. Ack! Nope , I tell myself, because they are next to the "Chesapeake Crab Legs" which show no signs. Yet. Every daylily in my garden was brand new spring 2017. What have the little monsters been eating before that. And how come they don't travel with the plant to it's new location, if one does see improvement after transplanting an affected plant? I can see how hard this has been to pin down. Will stop babbling now and share pictures tomorrow. Thank you, Sue.
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Apr 17, 2018 10:03 AM CST
These are toward the top of the hill, first time I've taken a closer look. But, even to my novice eyes, this does not look like spring sickness at all. Simply some frost damage. Tell me what you think? After last weekends cold snap, they were (from a distance) looking pretty bad compared to the Chesapeake Crab legs around them. Sorry about the newbie panic attack, and so relieved.
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The worst looking one.

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Divertissment has the grayish tinge to the foliage.
Chesapeake crablegs behind this group.
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Divertissments are the ones with the grayish tinge, Cheapeake crablegs to the left of this group
Name: James
California (Zone 8b)
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JamesT
Apr 17, 2018 10:45 AM CST
I think you're right, Tina. Normal wear-and-tear due to weather. It can be an ugly part of the season until the weather behaves and the plants really start to jump.

Are those wild onions?
Name: Tina
Greenup, Ky (Zone 6b)
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beenthere
Apr 17, 2018 10:52 AM CST
Thanks, James. Yep, those are my usual bumper crop of wild onions. I fought (by digging) to eradicate them for a few years. I just can't use any pesticides or herbicides. Then I gave in, not worth the effort, foliage gone by summer, and I read they actually repel voles and such. I have some weeding to do also. Lol! But with clay soil it's best to leave that till the constant rain stops. Otherwise you compact the soil which is a much bigger problem.
Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
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shive1
Apr 20, 2018 1:50 PM CST
Teresa - Stenciled Infusion overwintered just fine here. It seems to be pretty hardy.
Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
Apr 20, 2018 7:47 PM CST
Ultimate Sacrifice and one of my Spunky1 seedlings haven't shown up yet. Not looking good either but Crossing Fingers! Crossing Fingers!
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Name: Nancy
Bowling Green Kentucky (Zone 6b)
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alilyfan
Apr 21, 2018 11:07 AM CST
Don't give up just yet. I just spotted 2 coming up that I thought I had lost.
Name: Elena
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bxncbx
Apr 21, 2018 11:28 AM CST
A couple that had overwintered but weren't doing all that well may have rotted when we got almost 4" of rain on Monday. I'm not going to disturb them since they are in grow bags. I'm hoping the roots & crown might be okay (the small fans are gone). Crossing Fingers!
Name: Diana
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ShakespearesGarden
Apr 21, 2018 1:57 PM CST
Don't inow if Bengali will make it. Looked okay all winter, but it found it dug up. Crown feels okay, newer roots showing- I replanted it and gonna leave it alone...
Lost something else for certain. No sign of any plant remaining at all- can't read the tag on it, so I'll have to check the charts and plant list.

I hope I'm not back to update... Crossing Fingers!
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Name: Elena
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bxncbx
Apr 21, 2018 4:47 PM CST
Diana, I wouldn't worry about Bengali. It should be fine. I have an itty bitty seedling that the squirrels have dug up at least 8 times since last fall. I keep replanting it and it isn't dead yet. The seedlings in that bed should bloom this year but that one I expect will be set back a couple of years. I put a bunch of animal repellent in the bed this afternoon!
Name: pam
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gardenglory
Apr 22, 2018 9:07 AM CST
Im curious what you all do with your plants that were once clumps, and now are about the size of a two month old sdlg.
Name: Larry
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Seedfork
Apr 22, 2018 9:36 AM CST
@gardenglory,
I would dig it up and move it to a new location, improve the soil there with compost and try a different plant in that location.
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daylilly99
Apr 23, 2018 11:42 AM CST
I also lost some that were in pots - probably less then 10% and most were seedlings I was not going to keep for hybridizing.
Of those in my raised beds, I lost just two I think so far; INTO THE BLUE and DR. FRECKLES AND MR HYDE. I also lost fans on some others - mostly evergreens, I think.
Name: Nikki
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Scatterbrain
Apr 23, 2018 1:27 PM CST
I have to admit, I am always surprised each year that I haven't had crown rot affecting my daylilies, especially this year when we have had almost constant torrential rain or snow since last May.

Maybe it is because they ARE in pots so that the water can drain away rather than being planted in the ground where the roots would be constantly wet with the water table being so high? That is pure speculation and surmise on my part though.

Regardless of the reason I realize how lucky I am and am very thankful for it. I am really sorry for those of you who have lost daylilies Group hug .
Name: Diana
Lincoln, NE (Zone 5b)
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ShakespearesGarden
Apr 23, 2018 4:08 PM CST
I am sad to add Spacecoast Cranberry Kid to my list... Sighing!
Since I'm trying to finagle room for 20 new plants this spring, I may have to wait to replace it... Too many beds out of order and I doubled my count again this winter if I plant all my seedlings.

Sooo, I may have to wait till fall or (ack!) start next year's list...

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Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
Apr 23, 2018 4:57 PM CST
I'm trying to be patient on a couple before I give up on them. I want to dig down but know that's a big no no Whistling Whistling
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Name: Elena
NYC (Zone 7a)
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bxncbx
Apr 23, 2018 6:47 PM CST
I just found another that looks pretty bad but I'm not sure why. When I last checked (last week) it looked healthy. We did get a lot of rain but the soil isn't waterlogged or anything. It looks like one of my earliest evergreen dips that always looks terrible this time of year. I'm hoping it hangs on like my other one and pulls through. Crossing Fingers!
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Apr 24, 2018 3:36 AM CST
Another goner for me was ELLIS POWELL which I loved! Good news, a friend is going to trade me a couple fans. I had it in a pot but this one is going in the ground!
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