Daylilies forum: Winter losses?

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Name: Julie
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
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floota
Apr 24, 2018 7:01 AM CST
I'm not ready to declare anything a goner yet, although one plant, Smiling Cobra, hasn't shown up yet. It had survived the previous winter, which was milder. Sometimes the more tender EVs will show up in June. Walter Kennedy has been here since it first came out. It's a beauty, and was a big clump last year, but all that's showing now are about 3 or 4 little nubs. If enough plant had been up, I would have sent it as a gift to southern growers when shipping began this past week. It will have to grow, but this fall it's on the list to send south. I hope Smiling Cobra comes up. It's always the dratted expensive ones that seem the tenderest here. I don't often take chances anymore, but this one was appealing when it first came out. Knew it was likely a long shot to like this climate.
Several plants that were new in 2017 lost a fan or 2, but survived. I think once they're better established, they'll be OK here. With the severity of this past winter, I am totally convinced that the 6" of ground leaf mulch I spread around the garden saved a lot of plants . Other club members lost quite a few plants here in the mid Atlantic.
I mostly buy new plants now from people like Judy Davisson, TIm Herrington, Margo Reed, etc. Their plants never dissapoint. Am excited to try some new intros this spring from two hybridizers north of here-Phil Korth and Elaine Seifert. Theirs should do well here too.
Name: Julie
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
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floota
Apr 24, 2018 12:50 PM CST
I'm not ready to declare anything a goner yet, although one plant, Smiling Cobra, hasn't shown up yet. It had survived the previous winter, which was milder. Sometimes the more tender EVs will show up in June. Walter Kennedy has been here since it first came out. It's a beauty, and was a big clump last year, but all that's showing now are about 3 or 4 little nubs. If enough plant had been up, I would have sent it as a gift to southern growers when shipping began this past week. It will have to grow, but this fall it's on the list to send south. I hope Smiling Cobra comes up. It's always the dratted expensive ones that seem the tenderest here. I don't often take chances anymore, but this one was appealing when it first came out. Knew it was likely a long shot to like this climate.
Several plants that were new in 2017 lost a fan or 2, but survived. I think once they're better established, they'll be OK here. With the severity of this past winter, I am totally convinced that the 6" of ground leaf mulch I spread around the garden saved a lot of plants . Other club members lost quite a few plants here in the mid Atlantic.
I mostly buy new plants now from people like Judy Davisson, TIm Herrington, Margo Reed, etc. Their plants never dissapoint. Am excited to try some new intros this spring from two hybridizers north of here-Phil Korth and Elaine Seifert. Theirs should do well here too.
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Apr 24, 2018 6:04 PM CST
One oldie that I was surprised at losing was Navajo Princess. I had 2 clumps the one by the house survived the other didn't. I guess it had a micro climate near the brick.
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Name: Maryl
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Maryl
Apr 26, 2018 4:57 PM CST
Teresa: Micro climate can certainly play a part in survival I think. Shelter from cold winds, especially for those daylilies that have more southern origins can make the difference. For example: I had two pots of Pink Aloha overwintering outside this year in two different locations. One was more exposed to the eddying effects of the north wind, the other was not. Guess which one did NOT survive. Pink Aloha is listed as a Sev btw, but it certainly needs more protection in an abnormally cold winter then some other Sev's I grow and obviously cold winter winds ( particularly as a plant is going dormant) can make a difference.......Maryl
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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bluegrassmom
Apr 26, 2018 9:07 PM CST
I have spoken to some dl growers locally and others have had losses too. A bitter pill but at least I am not alone.

Thanks, Maryl Yes, just because it is a SEV doesn't mean it is hardy!
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Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Apr 28, 2018 2:41 PM CST
@sooby
I finished cleaning up my daylily beds today, and when pulling off the dead foliage on one plant the whole dead fan came off, seemingly right down to the crown of the plant. There was a hole in the soil and I felt the top of the crown and it is firm and hard. Will a new fan come out of here or will that crown die off?
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Name: Sue
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sooby
Apr 28, 2018 2:52 PM CST
As long as the crown is firm there's a chance it will produce side shoots so definitely worth waiting it out. Do you think it was attacked by a vole or something? Bad case of spring sickness?
Name: Valerie
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touchofsky
Apr 28, 2018 3:02 PM CST
It hasn't started growing yet, so it was just dried leaves that came off, but right down to the crown. I peeked in the hole left when the clump of leaves pulled off and it seemed to come off right at the crown. I didn't see any green and no sign of any rodent digging or anything. I lightly touched the crown and it felt hard and firm. Anyway, I will just leave it and see if anything comes back.
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Name: Terry
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mystlw
Apr 28, 2018 3:48 PM CST
My losses weren't too bad this year, considering past years and the below zero degree temps of this winter. I'm fairly certain I lost Handsome Devil, Mazie Farr, and Midnight Raider, all of which were in containers. I can repurchase Handsome Devil from Bachman on my next Valley of the Daylilies visit, and the other two were bonus plants that came with an MP Flowers order.

Much better than last spring, when I lost all eleven Marryott's daylilies. I'm glad I mulched the heck out of my beds this year!
My "I'd-pawn-a-grandchild-for-a-single-fan" list: Absolutely Fantastic, Ambar Sun, Clown Pants, Feathered Serpent, Of Olden Days, Purple Leopard, Rethink Pink.
Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
May 8, 2018 9:49 PM CST
I checked for "losses" today and found many. Very unusual for me. Have not lost this many in the 11 to 12 years (together) that I've been growing perennials. We had little to no snow cover during times of very, very cold snaps this past winter. Crying Sad

Hostas lost:
Hands Up
Hush Puppy
Canadian Blue

Hostas that are doing poorly (showing just one "nub"):
School Mouse
Holy Mouse Ears
Pure Heart
Pocket Full of Sunshine

Daylilies lost:
Armed and Dangerous (SE)
Ledgewood's Fire Cracker (SE)
Mike Longo (E)
Rushing Delight (E)
Azure Wings (E)
White Parasol (E)
Francois Verhaert (E)
Fabulous Black Pearl (SE)
Orchid Octopus (SE)

Daylilies that are doing poorly (one or two small fans left):
Watermelon Taffy (SE)
Irish Envy (E)
Lady Neva (SE)
Cimaron Rose (SE)
Planet Max (SE)
Guess I better stick to just the Dormant varieties.

Coral Bells:
Cherry Cola
Black Taffeta
Cinnamon Curls
Lime Marmalade
Galaxy
Melting Fire
Frosted Violet
Paris (showing tiny bit of growth)

Numerous iris rhizomes were mushy. But with multiple rhizomes in a patch, I still have some of each variety. I think I may have lost one or two totally.

I've been wanting to cut back. I guess Mother Nature is helping me out. I just wish she'd let ME decide which one to cut out though. Glare
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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sooby
May 9, 2018 4:18 AM CST
I have evergreen and semi-evs that have routinely survived very cold temperatures with little or no snow cover, and "dormants" that have croaked in the past. It's too early to write anything off this year in my zone, it's not July yet Hilarious! I've said it before and I'll say it again, look more at where they were hybridized than at the foliage habit (which can change depending on where they are grown). After all, the lost or poorly hostas were "dormants" too Smiling

Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
May 9, 2018 6:32 AM CST
So far I only see 2 daylilies lost but a couple new iris and a couple perennials didn't make it either. All plants were new last summer/fall.
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Name: Larry
Enterprise, Al. 36330 (Zone 8b)
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Seedfork
May 9, 2018 11:57 AM CST
petruske,
What a shame so many have been lost in just one year!
Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
May 9, 2018 12:08 PM CST
I agree
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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
May 9, 2018 12:31 PM CST
I agree with Sooby, I do not write anything off until July. They have looked dead in the early spring, but then will send up new growth later, right into July. I have some that have been very sluggish this spring, but I am just starting now to see some new growth peeking up after a couple of warm days. I have a few that are not showing any growth yet, but they are in a spot where the snow comes off later, so they are probably a week or so behind the others because of that.

I am hoping everybody comes through, albeit a little later than usual Crossing Fingers!
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Name: Sue Petruske
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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petruske
May 9, 2018 1:10 PM CST
Yes, I agree with Sooby also. I do plan to just leave them alone for a while to see if anything pops up. I'll let you all know how it goes.

The majority of the daylilies marked as (lost) were planted in 2016.

The coral bells have been in the same spot for three or four years. Sometimes I think the hybrids just wear out after a while.
Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
May 9, 2018 2:34 PM CST
I just looked at my list of sluggish starters this spring, and the vast majority are marked SEV, with only one EV and even a DOR (deciduous) on the list. Most are showing a tiny bit of green now, with only a few not showing anything at all. This has been such a late spring, that I think they will come along eventually.

However, I realize that buying something sold as a SEV, does not guarantee it will be a early spring starter. Some of my evergreens, such as Gerda Brooker, Batman and Marseilles Watercolor are up about 6 inches and look great. All three were planted last spring. Gerda Brooker has multiplied from 2 fans to about 6 in one year, as well! I didn't look to see if the other two have multiplied.
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Name: Ginny G
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Legalily
May 9, 2018 7:59 PM CST
I was sure The Ultimate Sacrifice was history but I noticed some new growth tonight Hurray! Hurray! Patience nodding
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Name: Valerie
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4a)
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touchofsky
May 9, 2018 8:05 PM CST
Hurray! glad to hear it, Ginny!
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Name: Nikki
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May 10, 2018 2:42 AM CST
Sorry to hear about so many daylily losses. Luckily none lost here despite all efforts from 'The Beast from the East' which was the name given to the awful weather front from Siberia that hit Britain three times in succession a few weeks apart.

Some of my plants I suspect will not flower this year though as a result of the winter being so long and harsh as our growing season is already very short but as long as the plants themselves survive I shall be patient. Had been hoping to see blooms on the new ones added last year but we shall see.😊

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