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Draconiusultamius
Apr 11, 2018 8:29 PM CST
I can't seem to find much info about this plant online. I purchased it from Walmart in bad condition and it really hasn't changed. The roots of the plant seem way too thin and few (I pulled lightly and the whole plant came out of the soil and there is almost no root ball. The stem appears to have completed a 180 which is preventing me from putting it back into the soil, and three healthy leaves fell off.
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I can't find much info on leaf dropping in this plant, so I'm assuming that it's abnormal for now.
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Baja_Costero
Apr 11, 2018 9:39 PM CST
I don't think you have Kleinia neriifolia. The plant I'm familiar with looks like this, with sausage shaped stems and flat leaves.



Is there a bunch of buried stem under there? I suppose you can leave it in its current pot and hope it roots better over time. It sounds like someone did not take the time to be sure the cutting was going strong before they put it up for sale.

If you do indeed have K. neriifolia, be prepared for summer dormancy. The plant grows in fall through spring. It loses all its leaves in the summer. So you may only have a couple of months left in the season before the plant loses much of its desire to root and grow.
Alberta, Canada (Zone 3a)
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Draconiusultamius
Apr 12, 2018 3:29 AM CST
Baja_Costero said:I don't think you have Kleinia neriifolia. The plant I'm familiar with looks like this, with sausage shaped stems and flat leaves.



Is there a bunch of buried stem under there? I suppose you can leave it in its current pot and hope it roots better over time. It sounds like someone did not take the time to be sure the cutting was going strong before they put it up for sale.

If you do indeed have K. neriifolia, be prepared for summer dormancy. The plant grows in fall through spring. It loses all its leaves in the summer. So you may only have a couple of months left in the season before the plant loses much of its desire to root and grow.


No stem under there. The stem curves completely upwards and you can just barely see the roots against that background of dirt (thin hairlike things, which are also brown. I haven't found a way to secure the plant back in the pot yet as the thing falls full out of it.
The leaves are vaguely sausage shaped, at least to me they do. If it isn't Kleinia neriifolia, then what does it look like to you? According to the tag, it came from Costa farms and their website does say that they sell K. neriifolia. I don't know of any other plants with such interesting leaves. Edit: link to Costa Farms http://www.costafarms.com/plan...
With the dropped leaves, would it be possible to root them? Or should I just discard them? I'm going to use some for hand-sectioning of a xerophyte, but if they're viable, I'd rather not use all of them.
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Baja_Costero
Apr 12, 2018 9:09 AM CST
I don't know what to call your plant. Hopefully somebody else here will speak up if they do. I don't think you can do much with the leaves that have fallen, as far as propagation goes.
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purpleinopp
Apr 12, 2018 10:46 AM CST
Compare to P. ferreyrae:
Peperomia ferreyrae

If it got too dry, leaves could fall, or if the roots are not healthy, that would also cause them to be unable to deliver moisture to foliage.
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Draconiusultamius
Apr 12, 2018 11:00 AM CST
purpleinopp said:Compare to P. ferreyrae:
Peperomia ferreyrae

If it got too dry, leaves could fall, or if the roots are not healthy, that would also cause them to be unable to deliver moisture to foliage.


That looks just like it! Thanks!
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Here's a picture showing the roots and the leaves. The roots are very thin and sparse and I don't know how to solve it. Would using Stim-root help? There is some at school that I can use.

Also, does anybody know if this plant is a xerophyte? I need to make slides of a xerophytic plant, so it wouldn't be very helpful if it weren't a xerophyte
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Baja_Costero
Apr 12, 2018 11:41 AM CST
I don't know anything about Peperomias but now you've got me curious about what your plant looks like when sectioned... It would be fun to see pictures if and when you pick up a knife. Smiling
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Baja_Costero
Apr 12, 2018 1:08 PM CST
You can probably pot up the plant sideways or some way, burying the minimum amount of stem in order for the bottom to be underground. Given good light and regular water, you can coax it into rooting better.

And just for fun, you can search the database here for plants that are suitable for xeriscaping, and there are over 9000 results. Only the first few dozen are shown on the page below. I would think most of the plants on the list are xerophytes. That Peperomia is not among them. The succulents on the list (about half of the total) are probably going to look interesting in section.

https://garden.org/plants/sear...
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Draconiusultamius
Apr 12, 2018 4:09 PM CST
I did a section of the plant sinc some of you were curious. It's not stained since I don't know where the stain is. I pointed the arrow at what appears to be a guard cell or something, which only appear in xerophytic plants, but I wonder if it's not used in xeroscaping due to the relatively small size and that the plant doesn't seem all too popular (or known).
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Name: Baja
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Baja_Costero
Apr 13, 2018 10:02 AM CST
Cool! Smiling
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Draconiusultamius
May 10, 2018 12:24 AM CST
The plant is not functioning. Its trunk is getting fatter, but it's leaves are practically wasting away. I can't water anymore or it will have root rot, but the largest leaves are getting more wrinkled and I don't know why. Could it be the roots? More importantly, what should I do to save it?
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purpleinopp
May 10, 2018 7:25 AM CST
I have several of these and I treat them like any other non-cactus plant, water before the soil dries completely. Stem cuttings take root easily.
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