Vegetables and Fruit forum: Any luck with avocado and mango in Central Valley California 9b?

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Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Apr 12, 2018 5:11 PM CST
Thinking of ordering a mango tree on fast growing trees (say they fruit after about a year and can tolerate lows to 30) and bringing it under my patio for the first few years and getting a Mexicola in ground and covering on cold nights. Has anyone had experience?
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Apr 15, 2018 5:52 PM CST
A Mexicola, Stuart, is rated at 15 F.
Allthough, they need frost protection the first several years of life while there young.

😎😎😎
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Apr 25, 2018 11:34 AM CST
Hi Philip, thanks for the advice. I actually picked up two mexicolas from Lowe's last week. One is a grande. They are from seed (I found the pit) but I noticed some dried flowers. Do you think these will be fruiting in the next couple years?
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Apr 25, 2018 5:03 PM CST
Howdy there, fellow Fresnian, Tim. 👍😀

Grande ? It does ring a bell. What is second one ?

Maybe ?🤔??? Crossing Fingers! You got one type A and one type B. The combination, together, will both produce more fruit being together, because they bloom opposite of each other.
It's complicated to explain.

Make sure the graph is allways above ground level.
You will see a line just about two inches above ground level, from depth level when you bought it.

Be patient ! Any avocadoes, need to be at least five years old, or more to produce fruit.

I didn't mention Mangos before.
I'm gonna tell you why !
Forget them !!!
My former neighbor, did succeed in growing them. There a pain ! Unless, you like very small, seedy, tasteless, mangos.

Ttfn ! Neighbor ! 😀
😎😎😎



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Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Apr 25, 2018 5:59 PM CST
Thanks for the advice. These are from seeds not graft. Could you make out whether those dried flowers are in fact flowers? Also, these are both mexicola, so they are both type b I believe. One is just a grande (larger fruit) of the same sp.

I love the way mangoes look so I'm going to risk the pain they take haha. I've heard sprouting store bought seeds taste bad because of hybridization but purchased plants taste great.
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Apr 26, 2018 9:25 AM CST
Hi Tim 😎
The pic you sent in, is the avocado flowers. There not real showy, especially spent flower's.

It's not necessary to have a type A and a type B, avocado to get fruit.

I've heard, that getting fruit from an avocado that isn't graphed is a gamble. It mite or mite not produce fruit.

I have three avocado trees, all about 2 or 3 years old. Two, store bought graphed, and one, a friend grew from seed, unknown variety, but, I believe locally grown.
How old are your trees ?

Your mangos, store bought plants, that's good !
I'd like to see how well they do hear.
Do you know how long it takes them to produce a crop ?

Latter, Tim. 👍😀
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Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: Tamara
Fresno County, California (Zone 9b)
Monetwwqi
Apr 26, 2018 11:49 AM CST
Hi Tim and Philip,

Just thought I'd remind you guys about the Water Wise give take at Fresno State this Saturday from 8AM to 12.

There is also a Nursery Plant Sale at the greenhouses. Both events are listed on the upcoming events calendar.

Hope to see you there.
Tamara
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Apr 26, 2018 12:35 PM CST
Tamara, THANKS YOU. Lovey dubby
Our ears must of been burning today.
I just wrote it down on my calendar earlier today.
I'm hoping to making it, since I missed last week's, garden of the sun, event. D'Oh!

Ta ta ! 👍😀
😎😎😎
Anything i say, could be misrepresented, or wrong.
Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Apr 27, 2018 8:59 PM CST
Philip, the avocado trees are both recently purchased from Lowe's. I'm not sure their age, but they must be 4 + years old to produce the flowers, right?

I actually went back and found a fuerte there that's full of flowers. I found a pit in the soil, so I know it's from seed as well.
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Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
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Philipwonel
Apr 28, 2018 6:52 AM CST
Hi, ya Tim. 😎
The homegrown, from a seed, avocado my friend gave to me, was one year old. Trunk was about as big around as ?🤔? Say, your thumb. It was around three and a half foot tall. The same size as the two I had just bought.

They choose a vigorous growing root stalk to graph the desirable variety too.
Look, around 1to 2 inches up from roots, at base of tree. You'll see a faint line, going around the trunk. That's where it's graphed. Its hard to make out, or see. Most of the time, I need to point out the graph for people see what I'm talking about.

Any suckers, that sprout out below graft, will be wild.
If graft is below ground level top will root.
Either way, tree most likely will never fruit, and possibly die.

My trees bloomed well this year also.
Of course EVEN, if any fruit emerge. I'll pull them off. Trees are to young, they need to grow, not waste energy producing fruit.

Hope you better understand, now, my friend. 👍👍😀
Philip 😎😎😎






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Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Apr 28, 2018 7:03 AM CST
Very informative. Thanks Philip!
Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Sep 9, 2019 12:17 PM CST
I ended up planting several mango trees. Two of which fruited. Ice cream and Valencia pride. Both were absolutely delicious! It can be done!
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SoCal (Zone 10a)
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SoCalGardenNut
Sep 10, 2019 7:52 PM CST
I can see the big smile with the ripe mango. Great work. Never say never. I have 3 avocado trees here, but we have avocado orchards close but, I should get some next year. I had two small ones by the size of a thumb, but they dropped off eventually.
Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Sep 18, 2019 12:20 PM CST
SoCalGardenNut said:I can see the big smile with the ripe mango. Great work. Never say never. I have 3 avocado trees here, but we have avocado orchards close but, I should get some next year. I had two small ones by the size of a thumb, but they dropped off eventually.


Nice! I wish I was zone 10a. I've seen dozens of mature avocados all over town here, many which look neglected but still look great in 105+ summer. I had a bunch of flowers on my avocados this year but nothing stuck. I'm hoping next year I'll be able to eat my own
Sacramento Valley (Zone 9b)
Channelz28
Sep 18, 2019 5:36 PM CST
Wow, that is awesome. I had no idea you could grow mangoes in the valley. I have tried avocados here is Sacramento and they both died, not sure why. I never even considered mangoes, now I want to try.
Name: Carol
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ctcarol
Sep 18, 2019 5:48 PM CST
Check when the avocados near by bloom, and when yours do. They need to be blooming at the same time to get pollinated. Different varieties bloom at different times, and some are pickier than others. I lucked out with a seed grown Pinkerton that is not supposed to do well in my area. I had lost two different neighboring pollinators, but it still produced like crazy. I got roughly 300 fruit (including one that sprouted on the tree) the last year I had it. I had to have it removed because it had outgrown its' space, and was becoming a hazard to me and my neighbors. Sighing! I welcome the extra sun, but sure do miss that tree.
Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Sep 28, 2019 7:30 AM CST
Channelz28 said:Wow, that is awesome. I had no idea you could grow mangoes in the valley. I have tried avocados here is Sacramento and they both died, not sure why. I never even considered mangoes, now I want to try.


Maybe you had a less cold tolerant variety and didn't provide protection? Could also be too much winter rain and root rot (Sacramento would have more of an issue with rain than Fresno). You can mound them up to prevent excess water logging. My more cold sensitive stuff (mango, wurtz avocado) I used 6 mm plastic to make a quick greenhouse around or used Home Depot frost fabric. Mexicola and bacon avocado didn't need any winter protection. Avocado also need shade their first year or two in the valley, or just east sun.
Name: Tim
Fresno, California (Zone 9b)
Bigfoot312
Sep 28, 2019 7:31 AM CST
ctcarol said:Check when the avocados near by bloom, and when yours do. They need to be blooming at the same time to get pollinated. Different varieties bloom at different times, and some are pickier than others. I lucked out with a seed grown Pinkerton that is not supposed to do well in my area. I had lost two different neighboring pollinators, but it still produced like crazy. I got roughly 300 fruit (including one that sprouted on the tree) the last year I had it. I had to have it removed because it had outgrown its' space, and was becoming a hazard to me and my neighbors. Sighing! I welcome the extra sun, but sure do miss that tree.


Ah, that sounds like my kind of problem! Haha. I have both a and b pollinators. I'm not sure what the avocados in my neighborhood are, but hopefully I get some that hold this coming year.

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