Plant ID forum: unknown Persimmons

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Name: Sherry Austin
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Apr 16, 2018 5:33 PM CST
The first persimmon was already on the property when I moved here over 20 years ago. I've always called it a "Hachiya type" because it is astringent, however, the shape is wrong, and it's later than the local Hachiyas... It's very prolific every year. Fall color is so so. I'm wondering if it might be either 'Eureka', or 'Honan Red'.. These were the closest descriptions I could find from the Rare Fruit Growers (they had no pictures). The fruit gets much darker when fully ripe (my chickens, and wild birds love them).
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The second, I believe to be the rootstock of the first one, as it came up about 8-10' away from its trunk. I let it go, because the fall color and form are fabulous. The leaves are glossier than #1, and the shape is pyramidal, as opposed to rounded/weeping of the first. It's about 10 years old, and has not fruited. D. Kaki, virginiana, and lotus are the most commonly used rootstock. I'm leaning toward the latter two.
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