Peonies forum: Very early-blooming herbaceous peonies from Adelman Peony Gardens

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Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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csandt
Apr 17, 2018 2:15 PM CST
Last fall (2017) I planted three each of two cultivars (Athena and Chalice) of very early-blooming herbaceous peonies from Adelman Peony Gardens.

In March (2018) I fertilized them with bulb fertilizer because of a past suggestion in the peonies forum by Karen @kousa for this important step.

I am delighted to report that all six peony plants now have robust buds, so I am expecting flowers on all of these plants in their first spring in my garden!

I am very grateful to Adelman Peony Gardens for great plants and to Karen @kousa for alerting me to the importance of applying bulb fertilizer to peonies in early spring.
Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

Garden Ideas: Master Level Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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frankrichards16
Apr 17, 2018 3:26 PM CST
what fertilizer did you use?
Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Peonies Region: Pennsylvania Growing under artificial light Foliage Fan Bookworm Annuals
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csandt
Apr 17, 2018 5:02 PM CST
frankrichards16 said:what fertilizer did you use?


Scotts Bulb Continuous Release Plant Food (10-12-10).

In the past I used Espoma Bulb Tone, which worked well too.
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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kousa
Apr 18, 2018 1:30 PM CST
That's so wonderful to hear, Carol. You've made my day! I am so glad that the fertilizing helps with the first ever blooms. Though most of the credit would have to go the great roots that you started with. No amount of fertilizing will get an inferior and small root to bloom the first year. I bought a number of peonies this past fall from Adelman. Most of their peonies that I planted this past fall are showing buds even the ones I planted late. The most impressive one is Vanilla Schnapps which has 4 buds! And it was one that I planted late about early December. I am still waiting on the 2 itohs planted at the same time for more growths to see if they too have any buds. Just a testament to the quality and consistency of their roots.
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Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Peonies Region: Pennsylvania Growing under artificial light Foliage Fan Bookworm Annuals
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csandt
Apr 18, 2018 5:45 PM CST
Karen,
How exciting that your Adelman peonies are showing buds too! Wow: 4 buds on your Vanilla Schnapps! One or two of my Chalice plants have 3 buds, and I thought that was pretty amazing. Most have 1 or 2.

Athena and Chalice were my first ever purchases from Adelman. Smiling
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Apr 18, 2018 6:35 PM CST
It's so exciting to see flowers on new peonies!!! Hurray! Adelman's sell great quality roots. Our summers are very short so there is not much time for peonies to accumulate resources for next season, usually I leave just one bud on a new peony and hope it will save some energy for next summer flowers.
Name: Yan H
Westminster, MD (Zone 6b)
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huang049
Apr 18, 2018 7:26 PM CST
All my Herbaceous peony from Adelman's had buds, only one tree peony had buds, others didn't. I'm very pleased with their roots too.
chicago, illinois (Zone 6a)
peonyplan
Apr 18, 2018 11:09 PM CST
Yan, may I know which tree peony is having buds? Is it a shoot from underground or above? I am curious since Adelman's usually cut back the woody stems heavily before sending the TP roots out.
Name: Yan H
Westminster, MD (Zone 6b)
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huang049
Apr 19, 2018 7:00 AM CST
Peonyplan,
It's "Leda" tree peony, has 2 buds the first year.

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And those TPs I ordered it from China also has buds too. A good tree peony year for me so far.


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Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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kousa
Apr 19, 2018 3:21 PM CST
Here is a pic of my Vanilla Schnapps with 4 buds. Not sure if all 4 are going to make it to bloom, but it is certainly impressive that this cultivar is extremely vigorous and Adelman's quality of roots speak for themselves.

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Ballarena de Saval with2 buds. The buds are still small so they cannot be seen in this pic.

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Pastelegance also purchased from Adelman has 3 buds. Pluto tree peony has 3 buds. I don't have pics to show but I am so happy with all the roots I got from Adelman this past year. Actually most every vendor sent great roots this past year.

Name: Frank Richards
Clinton, Michigan (Zone 5b)

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frankrichards16
Apr 19, 2018 5:19 PM CST
I ordered 'Athena' from Adelman's 14 years ago. Very disappointed. I thought it was a double and it keeps coming up single every year. And, way to early as well. Who needs a flower before all the other peonies show up? And, it has flares? I have tree peonies if I want flares.



Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Peonies Region: Pennsylvania Growing under artificial light Foliage Fan Bookworm Annuals
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csandt
Apr 19, 2018 5:44 PM CST
frankrichards16 said:I ordered 'Athena' from Adelman's 14 years ago. Very disappointed. I thought it was a double and it keeps coming up single every year. And, way to early as well. Who needs a flower before all the other peonies show up? And, it has flares? I have tree peonies if I want flares.





I had to laugh at your comment, Frank!!! I ordered Athena specifically because it looks like a tree peony (Rockii, which I love), and I don't want to grow tree peonies (TPs). I love TPs but prefer to visit them in other gardens!

I have plenty of peonies that bloom together in mid-season. I wanted very early bloomers to bridge the gap between bulbs and mid-season peonies.
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littlebin
Apr 20, 2018 10:41 AM CST
Yan, where do you order those tree peonies ? And about how much?

huang049 said:Peonyplan,
It's "Leda" tree peony, has 2 buds the first year.

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And those TPs I ordered it from China also has buds too. A good tree peony year for me so far.


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Name: Gary Ray
North Carolina (Zone 7b)
graycrna4u
Apr 20, 2018 6:49 PM CST
I got 4 itohs from Adelman's this year. All are up with multiple buds. The Sonoma itohs are small as far as the bush goes. But man, Sonoma Apricot has about 14 buds, and the other three have at least 8 to 10 buds. All my herbaceous roots from Adelman's have performed admirably. Everyone sent great roots last year, but Adelman's were exceptional.
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Apr 20, 2018 7:37 PM CST
My Sonoma Apricot from last year Adelman's sale is still in a workshop where it spent the winter and is growing leaves. So tomorrow I will take it outside and will watch the night temperatures. Today is (hopefully) the last cold day and the forecast for the next 10 days is good (looks like spring). Thumbs up
Name: Karen
Southeast PA (Zone 6b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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kousa
Apr 20, 2018 8:19 PM CST
Wow Gary! 14 buds on a first year peony! THat is just incredible. It surely sets a new record. 4 is about the most I ever get. You must have gotten a huge root and have very fertile soil that the peonies love.
Name: Yan H
Westminster, MD (Zone 6b)
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huang049
Apr 23, 2018 9:08 AM CST
littlebin said:Yan, where do you order those tree peonies ? And about how much?





I really don't know about the price. Littlebin
My brother-in-law was paid for me and refused to tell me how much it cost.
Name: Mary Stella
Anchorage, AK (Zone 4b)
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Oberon46
Apr 23, 2018 4:15 PM CST
Anya, I have my potted peonies, only three, on the back porch. Oh, and two I rescued from my neighbor who had them in his warm garage, no water, all winter. I repotted them, gave them a drink and hope they will perk up. REALLY need to put fertilizer on the ones in the garden, but the ground is so wet and mushy I would just compact the soil and make a mess.
Name: Anya
Fairbanks, AK (Zone 3b)
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anyagoro
Apr 23, 2018 6:13 PM CST
Mary, I also have three potted peonies in the deck, I take them inside for the night but soon I will not need to do this Thumbs up Still a lot of snow in the garden, we've got a lot this winter and the spring has been slow so far. (Today in the morning I went cross-country skiing, possibly the last time in the season.) I read my notes from last year and by this time some of peonies were free from snow! Not this year! Hilarious! At least the forecast is promising and I hope the spring will catch up.

So far I am really enjoying everyone's pictures from their gardens! So lovely! Lovey dubby Thank for sharing!
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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gemini_sage
Apr 24, 2018 2:17 AM CST
I've been impressed with the high percentage of first year blooms I see on peonies from Adelman's.

Frank, I'm curious what made you think Athena was a double, was there misinformation in the description? I've only ever seen it listed as a single.

Carol, please take photos when your new plants bloom, I'd love to see them! I have Athena on my list to order this year. Unfortunately it appears to be sold out at Adelman's, but other quality vendors still have it listed.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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