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Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
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quercusnut
Apr 27, 2018 4:56 PM CST
This volunteered from some mulch several years ago. So far it has never bloomed. I have no clue what it is but dying to know.
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Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
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ViburnumValley
Apr 28, 2018 8:44 AM CST
Blackhaw Viburnum - Viburnum prunifolium.
John
Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Plant and/or Seed Trader Cat Lover Dog Lover Roses Ferns
Hostas Foliage Fan Bromeliad Heucheras Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
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quercusnut
Apr 28, 2018 11:29 AM CST
Ok. I'm not doubting your ID and I hope you're correct because it means I now have a pollinator for what I thought was my only V. prunifolium.
However, the leaves on the volunteer are different from my older one. They are thicker and stiffer. When they harden they have a texture almost like a hellebore leaf. And they are glossier.
My first older plant has much softer leaves. And note the differences in the side by side.
Could the older one be a different species? Or is one a variant of the other? Or could it be due to provenance? I don't think it's a juvenile trait because my original one never looked like the younger one. Though I don't know if the older one came from seed or vegetative propagation.
Appreciate your help and I hope they are both prunifolium.
The first four photos are my older prunifolium.

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Name: John
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
You can't have too many viburnums..
Region: United States of America Region: Kentucky Farmer Cat Lover Birds Bee Lover
Butterflies Enjoys or suffers hot summers Enjoys or suffers cold winters Dog Lover Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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ViburnumValley
Apr 28, 2018 11:48 AM CST
OK, now you've opened the door for me to rag on your photography skills...

Your volunteer plant might be the very similar Viburnum rufidulum - but the images provided don't show the distinctive rusty brown pubescence found on the buds of this species, and that is the clearest separating feature from Viburnum prunifolium.

See if there are any unopened buds on a stem of that volunteer, and then photo that in some brighter light.

There is quite a bit of variation in the Blackhaw Viburnum species. I have a dozen or so distinct named selections and provenances at the Valley, and they range from more delicate constitution up to thicker stiffer leatherier foliage. Blackhaw has a broad native range, and that type of variation is to be expected.
John
Name: Kyle
Middle TN (Zone 7a)
Region: Tennessee Plant and/or Seed Trader Cat Lover Dog Lover Roses Ferns
Hostas Foliage Fan Bromeliad Heucheras Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds
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quercusnut
Apr 28, 2018 4:53 PM CST
All I have is my phone camera and my photograpic skills are rudimentary at best. Ha.
No unopened buds I could find. Here's a couple more closeups. Any help?
I believe you're correct and I'll mark this solved. Very glad to know it is prunifolium. Hopefully I'll start getting some berries in the not too distant future.
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