Cactus and Succulents forum: ID Request on this "Kraken" like succulent

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thetritone
Apr 30, 2018 8:45 AM CST
Need some help on ID-ing this intriguing looking succulent, my guess its a horombense...but just can't put my finger on it...
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skopjecollection
Apr 30, 2018 9:11 AM CST
Pachypodium baronii, but not even 75% certain.
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Ursula
Apr 30, 2018 9:27 AM CST
I think I am seeing double spikes?
If so, baronii, densiflorum, horombense don't have double spikes. Succulentum and saundersii do have them. (Also bispinosum, but looking at pictures, I don't think so.)
I just checked my plants...
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skopjecollection
Apr 30, 2018 10:10 AM CST
....they all got double spikes. Just closer together on the younger stem than on the older.
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Baja_Costero
Apr 30, 2018 10:18 AM CST

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Welcome!

What color are the flowers? I'm not sure the number of spines is necessarily informative, they can be variable in Pachypodium. The plant is from Madagascar, but I couldn't be more specific than that.

The plant is not succulentum or saundersii, based on the growth habit. The former has an underground caudex, the latter starts out bottle or blob shaped before the main stem dies back. It is probably not baronii, which is not generally a plant you're going to have without knowing it, since it's rare and difficult. Smiling

There is a group with yellow flowers that includes rosulatum and horombense and a few others where I have trouble telling plants apart. See this informative flower poster for a pretty good family portrait. I'm not sure you're going to be able to pin anything down but the flower color at least puts you in a particular group.

https://www.out-of-africa-plan...

More general info about the genus here.

The Pachypodiums Database

Apart from the ID question, the plant has apparently been grown for so long in sideways light without being turned that it is now facing sideways. Which is not necessarily a big deal, though not something I would do, just out of the interests of stability. It certainly gives the plant a lot of Kraken-like character. If you want to keep this form, be sure it continues to point toward the light. If you change the direction of the light, the plant will also change direction.
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thetritone
May 1, 2018 10:02 AM CST
Thanks guys! I guess it is still a mystery regarding the exact species, as a newbie, the following question might sound stupid but is there a chance that it is a hybrid of some sort? (Cross breeding?) Maybe I'll ask around my local stores and see if I get anymore info on this... Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Thank You!
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Baja_Costero
May 1, 2018 10:25 AM CST

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Pachypodiums do tend to self pollinate and hybrids are rather uncommon. If you get a definitive answer, it would be great if you could share it here. I'm curious. Smiling

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