All Things Gardening forum: First time growing lupines from seeds. Tips?

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DblNickel
May 1, 2018 10:29 AM CST
I've loved lupines since I was a girl and read Miss Rumphius at my grandparent's house. I am trying to grow them from seeds for the first time this year. Any tips?? Anyone who have had success starting lupines out of rockwool, indoors? This is how I've started them. I had a successful batch about a month ago, but prematurely transplanted them so they failed. I have started a new batch which have germinated and so far doing well in rockwool, indoors under a solar lamp.

I am in zone 7, and we are looking towards a hot summer. I may have set up this second set for failure as well, considering the now 80-degree weather. So any tips are welcome!

Please be kind. I used to have a brown thumb but have started to truly enjoy gardening, so I'm a newbie! Very much learning here. Thanks in advance!

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DaisyI
May 1, 2018 6:47 PM CST
Lupines are tough to start indoors - they don't like root disturbance. I have never been successful moving my Lupine babies from their starting pots to the big bad world.

But, I have been very successful planting the seeds out where I want them to grow in the fall. They will germinate in the spring and bloom their first year. Remember to mark the spot where you put seeds so you don't accidently plant something else on them.

Even though your daytime temps are now in the 80's, I would try to plant them out. If you put them in the shade of other plants (or make artificial shade) and keep them watered until they start to grow, you may save a couple. Don't disturb the roots - if the roots are already growing outside the cube, you will have a problem with root die back. Make sure the soil in your planting hole is soupy wet to lessen the chance of root destruction.

Good luck!! Keep us posted.
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Name: Mindi Hammerstone
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MindiHammerstone
May 1, 2018 10:20 PM CST
Dblnickel,

Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!

πŸ˜€ Good luck with your Lupines!!

Mindi

DblNickel
May 2, 2018 7:24 AM CST
DaisyI said:Lupines are tough to start indoors - they don't like root disturbance. I have never been successful moving my Lupine babies from their starting pots to the big bad world.

But, I have been very successful planting the seeds out where I want them to grow in the fall. They will germinate in the spring and bloom their first year. Remember to mark the spot where you put seeds so you don't accidently plant something else on them.

Even though your daytime temps are now in the 80's, I would try to plant them out. If you put them in the shade of other plants (or make artificial shade) and keep them watered until they start to grow, you may save a couple. Don't disturb the roots - if the roots are already growing outside the cube, you will have a problem with root die back. Make sure the soil in your planting hole is soupy wet to lessen the chance of root destruction.

Good luck!! Keep us posted.


Thank you! This new batch does not have roots yet -- only just germinated so might be a good time to move them outside before the roots begin. I will let yall know how it goes.

DblNickel
May 2, 2018 7:24 AM CST
MindiHammerstone said:Dblnickel,

Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!

πŸ˜€ Good luck with your Lupines!!

Mindi


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bumplbea
May 10, 2018 11:55 PM CST

Hey Mindi,
Lupines are a fav of mine too. I grew the hybrids that grow 3-4' tall. Started then in the greenhouse . I'm not familiar with Rockwool can you tell me what it is?
I start seeds in peat moss sterile plugs and place plugs in a tray with drainage material in the bottom. Then no pot is used to remove for planting outside. Just pop them in the ground.
Once you plant them in a prepared medium as the first new leaves grow out wait for 6-9 new leaves to grow and prick out the tiny next new 2 leaf growth. This will help the plant to grow thicker along with a good bright grow light for 10-12 hours daily along with temps 65'-70' will prevent spindly seedlings. Once they are large enough to plant out side,the danger of frost has past and a soil thermoter shows ground temps at 55-60'. Then it's time to harden them off before planting outside.
Harden off newbie plants slowly.Start by placing them outside in indirect light protect from direct sunlight and leave them out a few hours then bring them in side at night. Repeat and rinse adding longer exposure to indirect sunlight until they adjust to change of temp and sun exposure. Check them during the hardening off period for any signs of stress or wilting. Bring them in immediately if they become stressed during the hardening off period, they will recover. Usually hardening off take 4-5 days depending on the day and night temps. Then plant them in a partly sunny spot in well draining soil.
Lupines will self seed every year. If your winter temps drop below 20' then collect seeds from plants for next season. You can try to cross breed your own hybrids. Very simple method if interested will be happy to explain the procedure. I had fun with cross breeding lupines and naming them after family and friends for gifts.
Lupines comes in so many colors and it's so funny to watch the bumplebeas pop in and out of the floral spikes,collecting pollen. So busy they become over loaded & get stuck inside the floral spikes. They can be a bit vocal with loud buzz... buzzzz..when they push open the spike to get out.

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MindiHammerstone
May 11, 2018 4:41 PM CST
Bumplbea,

This is yet another variety that I have not yet tried. My mother had a field of them. Beautiful 🌸 Flowers!! You're very knowledgeable about flowers. For fun you should post how you hybridize them. I'll probably be ready to plant my Zinnias Monday. Getting the rest of the weeds and fixing up the soil!! Then I'll post pictures of my process on ZenMans page!!!

Happy Gardening!!!

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bumplbea
May 12, 2018 12:20 AM CST
Absolutely would post on hybridizing Zinnia's. Don't forget to add some granular flowering fertilizer in the bottom of each new planting hole. Just a pinch...This will guarantee a great flower show.

Your mom sounds like she had a huge green thumb. No wonder you sport a green thumb ! nodding

Can't wait to see your little newbies settled in their new home. Can't wait to see your pics! Hurray!



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MonicaKingsbury
May 12, 2018 12:46 PM CST
I planted lupine seeds last year and the plants only grew to about 4" tall and never flowered. This year I have huge plants with gorgeous flowers already. Hang in there. It's always an experiment when I'm planting. I do notice that if I don't water them very well by the end of the day they are drooped over.
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Name: Mindi Hammerstone
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MindiHammerstone
May 12, 2018 12:53 PM CST
MonicaKingsbury said:I planted lupine seeds last year and the plants only grew to about 4" tall and never flowered. This year I have huge plants with gorgeous flowers already. Hang in there. It's always an experiment when I'm planting. I do notice that if I don't water them very well by the end of the day they are drooped over.
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The foliage is gorgeous!!!

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Mindi

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bumplbea
May 14, 2018 6:41 PM CST
MONICA AND MINDI ..In my zone 6 , I always planted lupine Russell hybrids. Looks like a Russell hybrid in the pic ? Did you start in sterile growing medium? When did you start the seeds?

I start seeds in peat pots in green house. 2-3 weeks before the last chance of frost.

Lupines are short lived and in some zones and in other zones considered a biannual. Folage grows the first year from seed then flower the second year.

I have resorted to threatening them with yanking them out many times if they don't straighten up and flower. Hehe...Helps to have lots of bees for next years seed collection from spent flower pods. In zone 6 they reseed themselves yearly. The foliage is subject to fungus wilt, best to water with soakers refrain from getting foliage wet. Lots of air and sunshine helps.
I have often treated several rows of lupines with milk and water mixture, the fat in milk treats the fungus works well after a couple treatments. Beats the smelly chemical treatments for fungus wilt.

Love lupines miss them in my garden. But seeing your pics bring a huge smile 😊 . Thanks for the gorgeous pic of your outstanding specimen! Hurray!

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vma4922
May 20, 2018 6:44 AM CST
this fall (or summer reading) check out wintersowing. They wintersow very well, transplant while small. Many lupines do not bloom til 2nd yr. You have to get a 1st year blooming variety ..or if you're in the south, I've heard some bloom 1st yr because they have a longer growing season

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